2023 Roster and Transfer Discussion Thread

[gbservis]

You've actually just defined what is the difference between higher and lower quality coaches. If your only strategies for behavior change are "try harder" or "you're benched" then you are a very unskilled coach. Magno has shown he is capable but not consistent. Helping people learn to shift their behaviors, to improve focus, to align what they want with what they do is one of the primary roles of a coach.

I have strong opinions about this as I am an executive coach. Often a client will point out to me that their direct report just can't change. Obviously. Because they've told them to change repeatedly and the person hasn't done it yet. I call this the Nike approach to change - just do it. But Nike doesn't work. You need techniques and tools to manipulate and shape the behavior you want.

As a very simple example, I have had clients who are interrupters. They know they over talk. They know they interrupt. Often they've done so for years. They want to change but don't know how. I introduce the 3-star rule. Anytime someone else is talking they have to draw three stars during silence before they are allowed to speak. If the other person starts talking again while they are drawing they go back to zero. Wait for silence. Draw three stars. The technique provides a focus that alters the behavior in a completely different way from just telling them to try harder (or want it more).

I agree there are effective techniques that work for most people. But there are countless talented offensive players at the highest level that no matter who their coach is they will not try on defense. At some point, the responsibility needs to fall on Magno.

I think we are selling Nick's credentials a bit short. We have seen Gabby's effort level slump and the coaching staff has shown they can help him turn it around. Nick didn't come to us from some obscure CFG youth academy. He coached and won with one of the best Women's teams in the world. He managed some of the best players on the planet. There is no way he gets that job and has success with it without having some level of talent in player management and the ability to work through things like this with players whose professional credentials outweigh Magno's by orders of magnitude. Maybe the skills needed to manage some of the best players on the planet don't translate to getting the best out of a young prospect that isn't giving full effort but given his credentials, I'm not ready to put this on Nick.

 

[ZYanksRule]

I agree there are effective techniques that work for most people. But there are countless talented offensive players at the highest level that no matter who their coach is they will not try on defense. At some point, the responsibility needs to fall on Magno.

I think we are selling Nick's credentials a bit short. We have seen Gabby's effort level slump and the coaching staff has shown they can help him turn it around. Nick didn't come to us from some obscure CFG youth academy. He coached and won with one of the best Women's teams in the world. He managed some of the best players on the planet. There is no way he gets that job and has success with it without having some level of talent in player management and the ability to work through things like this with players whose professional credentials outweigh Magno's by orders of magnitude. Maybe the skills needed to manage some of the best players on the planet don't translate to getting the best out of a young prospect that isn't giving full effort but given his credentials, I'm not ready to put this on Nick.

Or maybe this roster isn't good enough. I think we overvalue coaches -- good players win games, and we don't have enough good players.

 

[moogoo]

Or maybe this roster isn't good enough. I think we overvalue coaches -- good players win games, and we don't have enough good players.

chelsea would like to speak with you.

takes a good mesh of both. sometimes personalities don't mesh and that's just how it is. but a good coach can make average players good and good players great. good players on their own can't win games w/o the right leadership

 

[Kenny]

 

[FootyLovin]

There is no way he gets that job and has success with it without having some level of talent in player management and the ability to work through things like this with players

Totally agree. Would never say Nick lacks skills. But when a desired change is failing it is either that the performer has hit their ceiling in performance or the coach (or manager) has hit their ceiling in knowing how to coax better performance. I'm a coach (and I've been told I'm pretty good). Some clients I've been incapable of helping find the performance they wanted. It happens. There is a fit gap.

Maybe the limit here is Magno. Maybe it is Nick.

Not saying Nick has no skill and isn't developing anyone. But what he is doing with Magno has failed thus far.

 

[Revfugee]

As a very simple example, I have had clients who are interrupters. They know they over talk. They know they interrupt. Often they've done so for years. They want to change but don't know how. I introduce the 3-star rule. Anytime someone else is talking they have to draw three stars during silence before they are allowed to speak. If the other person starts talking again while they are drawing they go back to zero. Wait for silence. Draw three stars. The technique provides a focus that alters the behavior in a completely different way from just telling them to try harder (or want it more).

News you can use!

Thanks for this. Never expected to get any useful business advice from this forum. Who knew? My business partner is a heretofore incorrigible interrupter/overtalker and I have been trying for years to get him to stop. I'm convinced it has cost us business more than once. I'm going to suggest this.

 

[FootyLovin]

News you can use!

Thanks for this. Never expected to get any useful business advice from this forum. Who knew? My business partner is a heretofore incorrigible interrupter/overtalker and I have been trying for years to get him to stop. I'm convinced it has cost us business more than once. I'm going to suggest this.

I don't want to over-claim any abilities here* but I did write a book** on behavior change. So if there is anything else I can help with ...

* Not a doctor.
** Not a good book.

 

[LionNYC]

I don't know the tract record of the person behind this account

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674575431918403584

 

[Fantazma]

I don't know the tract record of the person behind this account

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674575431918403584

he flip flops alot. in the winter he kept saying there were signing happening or "interesting things" not much happened. other users gave him shit and his excuse was that teams were asking for too much for players to nycfc backed out. i personally dont fully believe that as CFG has a network and could of gotten someone else. now if CFG is not interested in getting players is another matter.

for the summer he claims a striker. winger and LCB are to be expected. allegedly losing a CB too.

 

[BC19]

I don't know the tract record of the person behind this account

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674575431918403584

Whenever this account calls a signing correctly will be the first time. That’s the track record

 

[JayH]

I don't know the tract record of the person behind this account

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674575431918403584

He’s nothing more than a kid who is resourceful at searching the internet and then pretending that he is hearing from insiders and sources.

 

[moogoo]

He’s nothing more than a kid who is resourceful at searching the internet and then pretending that he is hearing from insiders and sources.

i don't mind that. let the kid do the work. people who attack him for rumors not panning out need better things to do.

 

[joe]

+1 to @FootyLovin’s coaching, can recommend. He didn’t even try to sell me a book

 

[JayH]

i don't mind that. let the kid do the work. people who attack him for rumors not panning out need better things to do.

I don’t mind his sharing the info. The holding himself out as an insider and his over the top teasers and breaking news exclamations are somewhere between annoying and funny. His constant fighting with others who take offense to his tweets is definitely funny.

 

[Gene]

I don't know why he always shows up in my feed (I most certainly do not follow him), but he has been all over the place the past few weeks.

It wasn't that long ago his "inside sources" were telling him "because NYCFC has fallen down in the pecking order in CFG's hierarchy, we shouldn't be expecting any big signings". That lasted about a week, then he went back to rewording other people's tweets and passing the info off as his own. Now he's back to his "the signings coming our way are going to blow you away" nonsense.

 

[Kenny]

I don’t mind his sharing the info. The holding himself out as an insider and his over the top teasers and breaking news exclamations are somewhere between annoying and funny. His constant fighting with others who take offense to his tweets is definitely funny.

Agree. Had to stop following the account. Every day "OMG this is going to be amazing, better than anyone expected, wish I could tell you guys but I can't! Yet! Stay tuned!!"

Fuck that.

 

[Fantazma]

I don’t mind his sharing the info. The holding himself out as an insider and his over the top teasers and breaking news exclamations are somewhere between annoying and funny. His constant fighting with others who take offense to his tweets is definitely funny.

he even got with it with Maximo Carizzo's father this week. If maximo leaves im blaming the nycfc source guy lol

 

[mgarbowski]

His constant unfulfilled promise of news coming soon, tomorrow, but never today just makes the lack of news more annoying. Then when something finally happens he will claim he predicted it.

 

[JayH]

he even got with it with Maximo Carizzo's father this week. If maximo leaves im blaming the nycfc source guy lol

His comments about the academy and the process were so off, it confirmed he was making things up, and it was funny seeing AC call him out (also probably having no idea it is a kid just spitballing stuff).

 

[JayH]

Speak of the young devil

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674910400209403905