2024 Roster and Transfer Discussion Thread
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i think so too. but you could say that about jovan as well. who would you rather give up? bakrar or jovan?
Assuming there isn't some rule we do not know...
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1. Jovan
2. Ojeda
3. Fernandez
4. Perea
5. Martinez
6. Santi
7. Jones
8. Parks
9. Martins
10. Ilenic
11. Wolf
12. Freese
open to draft
13. Risa - lost starting position to Haak
14. Maxi - old
15. O'Toole
16. Tanasijevic - 4th CB
17. Barraza - would be up for replacement regardless
18. Hope-Gund - sure?
19. Bakrar - 3rd striker next year at best based on $ spent
O'Toole is the most difficult omission. He is a league average starter, but at his salary, that is valuable. Martins would be a better gamble - daring them to take a DP - but he is a team captain and it would be a bad look to leave him unprotected.
At first I said Jovan, but then when I went back and reread your OP about money and fees I made the edit to post #941.
It wouldn't be a loss either way losing Bakrar and/or Jovan imho.
As a matter of fact I'm kind of going to double down on a comment I made during the last international break and say I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Jovan doesn't return for 2025.
yea. i think it will be interesting to see who the club protects based on their knowledge of what's going to happen and with who.
i think we should definitely try to keep otoole and like others have said, gambling martins makes sense but would be a bad look. It's a tough call and really depends on how much stock the club/CFG puts into our big money transfers, especially Jovan. obviously, not all transfers work out. i wouldn't be the least bit upset if jovan gets drafted or goes back to serbia.
How do transfer fees work with the expansion draft. If they took Jovan would we just be out the $8M we paid for him or do they owe us some prorated amount?
I have no idea. I assumed the club would eat the transfer fee if they weren't willing to protect the player, which is why I created my list as I did.
I would think we would be SOL, but with MLS being MLS who knows? As underwhelming as he's been I really can't see CFG letting him go for nothing.
Seems like something the MLS needs to consider given the new U22 rules incentivize teams to spend much bigger transfer fees. The whole expansion draft thing was all fun and games when $500K was a big transfer fee for a player.
Although I doubt many other teams have $23M invested in bench warmers that will take protection slots from guys like O'Toole who cost nothing, makes like $100k and starts.
I'd swap O'Toole for Wolf or Martins based purely on salary. All three are starters but OT makes next to nothing Martins is a DP CB and Wolf is an expensive TAM player. I'd protect the cheaper of the three. Also, even if you rate OT as a backup I'd rather have at least one LB on the roster after Mcfalane departs than start the season with zero players at that spot and OT is a bargain even as a backup.
They're also going to expose guys who are out of contract. So Maxi, for example, will be exposed in the expansion draft because he's out of contract and might even retire after this season.
I would think they'll protect Perea over Bakrar -- Perea's been far more important to the team's success. Also they will protect guys who they think San Diego would be interested in. Seems possible they would be more interested in American players so they don't use up international spots on guys they haven't signed themselves.
I would think they'll protect Perea over Bakrar -- Perea's been far more important to the team's success. Also they will protect guys who they think San Diego would be interested in. Seems possible they would be more interested in American players so they don't use up international spots on guys they haven't signed themselves.
Going by who is most/least easily replaceable. In other words, how easy is it to go out into the market and simply replace the loss.
We may not like it, but replacing these players would cost a lot of money to swing again. We wouldn’t want our ticket prices hiked for it. But the idea of CFG just paying for stuff and not passing on the cost to us is a fantasy. So unless you think players like this are easy to find without paying a transfer fee …
1. Jovan
2. Ojeda
3. Fernandez
Cheap high value for the money. And AHABS OT will be the only LB on our roster. These two players would cost substantially more to go out and buy.
4. Jones
5. O’Toole
Then the players who are reasonably expensive but more value than cost. We pay a bunch, but it would cost even more.
6. Perea
7. Santi
8. Parks
9. Martinez
10. Wolf
11. Freese
I’m not sure I have a 12th. I actually really want Martins selected. He’s terrific. He’s a beast on that back line. But he’s a CB.
Can we replace a right footed CB for non-DP wages? I think so. Maybe we move Haak to RCB and look for a new LCB. I don’t think Haak-Risa is our ideal future. But if it was, imagine how our team would look with a back line of Gray-Haak-Risa-OT and a front 4 that included a TBD DP. That is way more exciting to me than shoring up our defense.
We may not like it, but replacing these players would cost a lot of money to swing again. We wouldn’t want our ticket prices hiked for it. But the idea of CFG just paying for stuff and not passing on the cost to us is a fantasy. So unless you think players like this are easy to find without paying a transfer fee …
1. Jovan
2. Ojeda
3. Fernandez
Cheap high value for the money. And AHABS OT will be the only LB on our roster. These two players would cost substantially more to go out and buy.
4. Jones
5. O’Toole
Then the players who are reasonably expensive but more value than cost. We pay a bunch, but it would cost even more.
6. Perea
7. Santi
8. Parks
9. Martinez
10. Wolf
11. Freese
I’m not sure I have a 12th. I actually really want Martins selected. He’s terrific. He’s a beast on that back line. But he’s a CB.
Can we replace a right footed CB for non-DP wages? I think so. Maybe we move Haak to RCB and look for a new LCB. I don’t think Haak-Risa is our ideal future. But if it was, imagine how our team would look with a back line of Gray-Haak-Risa-OT and a front 4 that included a TBD DP. That is way more exciting to me than shoring up our defense.
Martins is a good CB, not the greatest, but at least he has decent pace. Neither Haak nor Risa have any pace. If we relied on them to chase someone down, it aint happening. Considering our style of play, we need CBs who can handle long/through balls against our exposed back line with our wing backs pushed up or pinched in. As it is now with martins pace, we struggle to handle these attacks. We'd have no chance without some speed in our CBs.
Based on other posts I was assuming he was protected as a homegrown.
Good point. So, can you buy a pacey CB on the open market for less than DP money? If yes, leave him unprotected. If no, protect him.
Also, does San Diego want a DP centerback. If the answer is no, you leave him unprotected to protect someone San Diego might actually be interested in.
The goal is to have your unprotected list be a bunch of players San Diego doesn't want, not to protect your 12 best players and leave others who have a chance of getting picked.
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