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TBH, this is a real dangerous situation for MLS and all the other teams. This is debatable whether team options in player contracts are in fact legal. Previous cases have all been settled before reaching CAS. Obviously there is more to it with the whole sending notice to wrong person thing, but if this dispute reaches CAS they could potentially make a ruling that team options in player options are illegal.

And also of this for a player they should have sold two seasons ago. Hard to feel bad for the Red Bulls when they fucked Aaron Long this transfer window. Who's going to sign for them now?
 
TBH, this is a real dangerous situation for MLS and all the other teams. This is debatable whether team options in player contracts are in fact legal. Previous cases have all been settled before reaching CAS. Obviously there is more to it with the whole sending notice to wrong person thing, but if this dispute reaches CAS they could potentially make a ruling that team options in player options are illegal.

And also of this for a player they should have sold two seasons ago. Hard to feel bad for the Red Bulls when they fucked Aaron Long this transfer window. Who's going to sign for them now?

According to the ESPN article it sounds like the Red Bulls screwed up. :D Kaku has the backing of the MLSPA on this.

""Kaku's option notice was sent by NY Red Bulls Sporting Director Denis Hamlett on February 28, 2020, via email to Scott Pearson," the letter reads. "Mr. Hamlett's email attached the option exercise letter and asked Mr. Pearson to '[p]lease share this with the player and let us know if you have any questions.' That email was not copied to Kaku. Despite several requests to MLS for evidence to the contrary, that February 28, 2020 email to Scott Pearson was the sole means of delivery to Kaku of the notice to exercise the 2021 option in his contract.

"You have stated that the option exercise notice was emailed and hand delivered to Kaku. It was not. Despite several requests, MLS has not provided evidence to support its assertion that the notice was delivered to Kaku. Mr. Pearson is not designated as Kaku's authorized representative on his contract, nor has MLS produced any evidence that Mr. Pearson has, in accordance with Section 26.1 of the CBA, signed a form provided by MLS designating him as Kaku's authorized agent.""

https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-...-dont-want-kaku-transfer-certificate-released
 
According to the ESPN article it sounds like the Red Bulls screwed up. :D Kaku has the backing of the MLSPA on this.

""Kaku's option notice was sent by NY Red Bulls Sporting Director Denis Hamlett on February 28, 2020, via email to Scott Pearson," the letter reads. "Mr. Hamlett's email attached the option exercise letter and asked Mr. Pearson to '[p]lease share this with the player and let us know if you have any questions.' That email was not copied to Kaku. Despite several requests to MLS for evidence to the contrary, that February 28, 2020 email to Scott Pearson was the sole means of delivery to Kaku of the notice to exercise the 2021 option in his contract.

"You have stated that the option exercise notice was emailed and hand delivered to Kaku. It was not. Despite several requests, MLS has not provided evidence to support its assertion that the notice was delivered to Kaku. Mr. Pearson is not designated as Kaku's authorized representative on his contract, nor has MLS produced any evidence that Mr. Pearson has, in accordance with Section 26.1 of the CBA, signed a form provided by MLS designating him as Kaku's authorized agent.""

https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-...-dont-want-kaku-transfer-certificate-released

looks like a red bulls blunder to me! for something as simple as notification to a player, providing evidence of such should be fairly simple to procure. if they are unable to do it quickly, they simply don't have it. too bad, so sad.
 
Finally, a question that involves my professional expertise (law) and not my wife’s!

Properly sending notices is a big part of following a contract. Most business contracts of any complexity have an entire section covering notices that states who gets the notice, where it goes, and the form it has to take.

Not sending something in strict accordance with the agreement is a big fuck up. Now, maybe there are extenuating circumstances- like a vague notices section or some ambiguous instructions from Kaku’s side, but it doesn’t look good for the Red Bulls.
 

I think the board consensus on Marsch has developed into he's a whiny jerk with respect to refs and game interviews, and that he's a talented coach. This certainly is an impressive career progression, now officially set to take over the likely second place team in the Bundesliga. I expect nobody outside the RB organization foresaw this when they fired Petke and brought Jesse in. I'm not even sure RB management expected it to work out this well for them.
 
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Very rough season in New York New Jersey. Losing to Chicago at home last night is a new low.

It almost looks like they are tanking their season to get some of their more promising young players time.
 
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Not saying this is our chance to obliterate them three times and totally swing HRD overall to blue... but this is our chance to obliterate them three times and totally swing HRD overall to blue. However rivalries always do weird things to good and bad teams.
 
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Not saying this is our chance to obliterate them three times and totally swing HRD overall to blue... but this is our chance to obliterate them three times and totally swing HRD overall to blue. However rivalries always do weird things to good and bad teams.

yea. portland was sliding and then they beat seattle 2-0.

i would love for us to erase the red wedding with a significant thrashing of the red bulls 3 times in a season.
 
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Going into Decision Day, the Red Bulls sit in 7th place, 1 point ahead of Montreal and 3 ahead of DC and Columbus. The Red Bulls would hold the tiebreaker against Montreal and almost certainly against Columbus (+7 goal differential), but would lose the tiebreaker to DC.

The Red Bulls have a tough game away at Nashville - a win or a tie in that game gets them into the playoffs. With a loss, they would be passed if any of the following happen: (1) Montreal win, (2) DC win, (3) Columbus win and make up the 7 goal differential gap.

The Red Bulls can finish as high as 5th.

With a tie against Nashville, they will finish 5th if both Atlanta (at Cincinnati) and Orlando (at Montreal) lose, 6th if one of them lose, and 7th if neither lose.

Similarly, with a win against Nashville, the Red Bulls will finish 5th if both Atlanta and Orlando tie or lose, 6th if one of them wins, and 7th if both of them win.

It sets up a lot of odd incentives for NYCFC fans. We root for the Red Bulls at Nashville because that gets us into 2nd, but we want to root against them because they could easily fall out of the playoffs. We want to root against Orlando because we want them to have a low seed or be out of the playoffs and because that allows Montreal to pip the Red Bulls. On the other hand, Orlando winning helps keep the Red Bulls at a lower seed.
 
Going into Decision Day, the Red Bulls sit in 7th place, 1 point ahead of Montreal and 3 ahead of DC and Columbus. The Red Bulls would hold the tiebreaker against Montreal and almost certainly against Columbus (+7 goal differential), but would lose the tiebreaker to DC.

The Red Bulls have a tough game away at Nashville - a win or a tie in that game gets them into the playoffs. With a loss, they would be passed if any of the following happen: (1) Montreal win, (2) DC win, (3) Columbus win and make up the 7 goal differential gap.

The Red Bulls can finish as high as 5th.

With a tie against Nashville, they will finish 5th if both Atlanta (at Cincinnati) and Orlando (at Montreal) lose, 6th if one of them lose, and 7th if neither lose.

Similarly, with a win against Nashville, the Red Bulls will finish 5th if both Atlanta and Orlando tie or lose, 6th if one of them wins, and 7th if both of them win.

It sets up a lot of odd incentives for NYCFC fans. We root for the Red Bulls at Nashville because that gets us into 2nd, but we want to root against them because they could easily fall out of the playoffs. We want to root against Orlando because we want them to have a low seed or be out of the playoffs and because that allows Montreal to pip the Red Bulls. On the other hand, Orlando winning helps keep the Red Bulls at a lower seed.
As I pointed out in a different thread, we would possibly want RB in 5th place, since fourth plays fifth on the other side of the bracket, meaning we'd be left with the others to deal with.

Also funny to note that Red Bulls, regardless of if they win OR tie, have to hope for the same luck regardless. Usually a win puts you on a slightly better position, but in this case it's [5th if ATL/ORL lose, 6th if one wins, 7th if both win] for both RB winning and RB tying. So strange!