It absolutely is. Every sport in New York is better when the rivals are all good.
Bless Their Hearts (RBNJ Talk Here)
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It absolutely is. Every sport in New York is better when the rivals are all good.
There was one guy in 125 who was trying to rile up three entire sections throughout the second half. He kept trying to talk shit and motion at the home fans, even after we took the lead back. Birds galore.
Alright I shouldn't have said all. All the ones I saw were fun. Of course there always have to be some clowns.
The whole tottenham/arsenal debacle from the second to last matchday in the PL made me think of an interesting thought experiment.
NJRB in second in supporter shield standings, NYCFC need to win to make the playoffs (this case assumes that an NYCFC loss would drop us out of playoffs bc another team would overtake us). NYCFC plays the team in 1st in the SS standings on the final matchday. Assuming RB win, would you rather NYCFC lose so RB can't get the SS but NYCFC also misses the playoffs, or would you rather playoffs and screw the salad plate?
NJRB in second in supporter shield standings, NYCFC need to win to make the playoffs (this case assumes that an NYCFC loss would drop us out of playoffs bc another team would overtake us). NYCFC plays the team in 1st in the SS standings on the final matchday. Assuming RB win, would you rather NYCFC lose so RB can't get the SS but NYCFC also misses the playoffs, or would you rather playoffs and screw the salad plate?
the shield is meaningless based on merit these days. The cup is similarly meaningless for the same reasons, but in american sports, the CHAMPION is the one who survives the playoffs and wins it all regardless of your table standing.
i don't think it's comparable to spurs/arsenal. let NJ have the shield if we get a chance at the cup. As long as they don't get a cup, we'll always have one over them no matter how many shields they have.
Meaning is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, I respect the shield.
And I say play every match to win. Even if we were already knocked out of the playoffs. Play to win. If NJ achieves something in part because we won, so be it. Always play to win.
I don't quite know what to think about this. I didn't see a John Tolkin twitter account when I looked at the time this news broke, but maybe he was super fast about taking it down. I also think there are reasons a person could like wacky posts like those without actually believing them, but that's thinner ice.
This is his account here: x.com
He responded to a RB fan calling the team out which led to fans discovering his likes. Shortly after it blew up, he made his account private.
I still get emails from away teams all the time asking me about season tickets. I've politely emailed to be removed from their mailing lists, they still email me.
The Red Bulls held a postgame fireworks show after tonight's 5-1 loss in the Hudson River Derby.
It's simply too good to be true.
It's simply too good to be true.
I agree it's funny but in fairness to them if they advertised post-game fireworks they have to do it. As a parent if I told my kids that we would see fireworks after the game and a team canceled the fireworks because of the result of the game my kids would be heartbroken and I would be pissed.
I completely agree. Obviously they have to go through with it. But it's absolutely hilarious to have postgame fireworks after a 5-1 loss.
This is exactly what I was saying the other day.
Good video just talking about the idea of attendance in the first place. Zealand is from Miami and doesn't support neither NYCFC nor NJRB.
But RB really needs to do SOMETHING to fix this issue.
Good video just talking about the idea of attendance in the first place. Zealand is from Miami and doesn't support neither NYCFC nor NJRB.
But RB really needs to do SOMETHING to fix this issue.
WTF was he going on about? Is he Zeland or not Zeland? Is that an inside joke? He left his room but he also recreated his room? I couldn't get past the opening. I guess if you watch regularly it could be amusing but not getting the joke it was annoyingly obscure.
OTOH I'm the guy who hates podcasts so just ignore me.
I think I’m gonna push back on Zealand (or his weird bit where he’s not Zealand?). He kept discussing only two teams where fan bases are struggling to thrive, Red Bull and Chicago. And then he goes on to mention a bunch of teams that have, in his words, been successful. NYC, LAG, LAFC, Nashville, Seattle, Portland, Atlanta, Charlotte. Can we add more teams to the struggle bus? Sure. Rapids, White Caps, Earthquakes, Revolution. All old guard teams. But I’d say more than half of our teams are successful. Including small market teams. Last year RSL sold out their stadium close to 15 games in a row. When they don’t suck, Austin has a riotous crowd. Orlando has been steadily climbing and so has NYC. Audi Field has really helped DCU. All this is meant to say most teams in the league are successful which is enough. Especially when you add in that we are a parity league, then it makes every game relevant because the level of the highest team and the lowest team are not insanely far apart like they can be in other leagues like La Liga, Premier League, and Bundliega. Most games are competitive. And the ownership groups have paid into basically making sure they all are successful by buying into MLS instead of just a singular team. So everyone’s success rides on one another.
So I see your point Shwafta that having a strong healthy Red Bulls franchise only helps our team and our rivalry. But also feeling sympathy for the devils (or the bulls) isn’t going to make them a better franchise. The worst thing that can happen right now is Red Bulls fold. Which they won’t because they are also apart of a network of teams in other leagues. So your second worst outcome is that the HRD becomes obsolete because one team always wins. Which would be a bummer but then we also have a rivalry with Toronto and Philly that could be ramped up. Which would get our fan base going. This is what happened with the Rocky Mountain cup. RSL fans consider SKC more of a rivalry than the Rapids.
So I just don’t think this is as big of an issue that Zealand is making it out to be. Most teams are successful, parity keeps the league entertaining and brings back fans for most to all teams, and owners have incentives to have successful teams so you will continue to see declines in poor performing teams.
And lastly, just to throw it out there, There are many teams in MLB, NBA, NFL who are not super successful and those leagues are doing alright.
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