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Frank Lampard Thread
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beaucoup_movement
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If he really is going to move to NY earlier than expected, great. The team will benefit from having him here. Better now than July, you want the best players involved for as long as possible and there's no doubt he'll be one of the best players on the roster. He'll make Villa better as well.
I am not a Frank Lampard fan. Never rooted for the guy in England, never liked Chelsea, and I thought NYC should have cut ties with him back in December when all this crap started. But that's wishful thinking, there's absolutely no chance the club backs away from Lampard now. He'll be here eventually, and if it's going to happen down the line it might as well happen sooner if at all possible. He can work through the learning curve with the team rather than being forced into an established lineup in midseason.
Does Lampard look like a self-interested POS who's jumping from club to club as it pleases him? Sure does. But we already knew that about him, learned it back in December, not news now. At least if he squirms out of another commitment it'll benefit NYC this time.
Lampard is a pure mercenary and a short-term fix for NYCFC (he's about to turn 37). At best I think the club gets the remainder of the 2015 season and all of 2016 before he retires. But he's still the best option available for midfield right now by a pretty significant margin.
And I wouldn't point at the unbeaten record as evidence that the club is fine without Lampard. There's a LOT of room for improvement. They could have easily lost any (or all) of the three games played so far. Orlando had plenty of chances, New England could have scored 3 or 4 in the first half alone, and Colorado had Saunders under fire all day yesterday. Things need to improve and Lampard will absolutely help. I say bring him in tomorrow if he and Man City can work it out.
I am not a Frank Lampard fan. Never rooted for the guy in England, never liked Chelsea, and I thought NYC should have cut ties with him back in December when all this crap started. But that's wishful thinking, there's absolutely no chance the club backs away from Lampard now. He'll be here eventually, and if it's going to happen down the line it might as well happen sooner if at all possible. He can work through the learning curve with the team rather than being forced into an established lineup in midseason.
Does Lampard look like a self-interested POS who's jumping from club to club as it pleases him? Sure does. But we already knew that about him, learned it back in December, not news now. At least if he squirms out of another commitment it'll benefit NYC this time.
Lampard is a pure mercenary and a short-term fix for NYCFC (he's about to turn 37). At best I think the club gets the remainder of the 2015 season and all of 2016 before he retires. But he's still the best option available for midfield right now by a pretty significant margin.
And I wouldn't point at the unbeaten record as evidence that the club is fine without Lampard. There's a LOT of room for improvement. They could have easily lost any (or all) of the three games played so far. Orlando had plenty of chances, New England could have scored 3 or 4 in the first half alone, and Colorado had Saunders under fire all day yesterday. Things need to improve and Lampard will absolutely help. I say bring him in tomorrow if he and Man City can work it out.
Agreed. If you're pissed off still, be quiet, plead the Fifth, ignore him -- but probably don't boo.
Usually, I'm with you, but I have to disagree. Nothing we could do, bar going full Chelsea on someone, would reflect half as bad as what has already been done. I don't see how fans booing a player is such a bad thing. If it weren't for us, they wouldn't have the job they have. We don't get the chance to have a one-on-one conversation and tell them what we think. To me, not booing is being a bad fan because it implies you're okay with the behavior.
I can see both sides, but I am in the booing camp. I can boo the player and cheer his contributions. It's logical to me. That's the great thing: we can all react however we personally see fit. I suspect there will be a mix of both for a while for ol' #8 on his shirt, #1 in his mind Lampard.
I'm consistently amazed and annoyed at this idea that we owe these people anything.
It's a commercial transaction and we're the ones paying money. The basic rules of civility apply but beyond that anything goes.
I would not boo poor play but I could boo lack of effort or bad behavior. Lying to the fans fits.
It's a commercial transaction and we're the ones paying money. The basic rules of civility apply but beyond that anything goes.
I would not boo poor play but I could boo lack of effort or bad behavior. Lying to the fans fits.
At this point I'm just going to remain indifferent. I will welcome his arrival, whenever that is, but the season is already underway and I'm already too invested in the actual games to give a damn now. It's all in the past as far as I'm concerned. Maybe this is what the club wanted but it's worked so shame on me I guess.
If he's just phoning it in by the time he starts playing for us though thats a different story.
If he's just phoning it in by the time he starts playing for us though thats a different story.
Agreed. I'm not sure I will boo him, but I believe we have the right.
Davo15
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Seinfeld had that bit about how we root for laundry and it's pretty much true. Also go to that scene in the Bronx tale about Mickey Mantle not giving a crap about you or whatever it was. I think most players are on some level mercenary and don't care about the team their on the way us fans do. I think we have a better chance of winning games with Lampard on the field than without so personally I would not boo him. Had he committed a Ray Rice or a Ched Evans, for me it would be a different story, but I guess it's a matter of perspective where your threshold is for off field issues affecting how you cheer at the match.
typicalcity
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We have a saying at city "never boo a blue "
Unless it edin dzeko then its fine to call him a lazy useless get !
It's never worked that way in NY, and probably most US sports towns. I believe New Orleans Saints fans first invented the practice of putting paper bags over their heads to signify displeasure with the team's performance.
After a famous loss in 1978, in which the team blew an all-but-certain yet meaningless win, a NY Giants fan famously rented an airplane and had it fly over the stadium saying "15 year of lousy football - we've had enough."
In 1987, I attended a NY Knicks game against the Denver Nuggets on St. Patrick's day when the team handed out 7 foot long life size posters of second-year star Patrick Ewing, when this happened:
"[L]last night [the Knicks] arrived at Madison Square Garden to face the reeling Denver Nuggets, a team that had lost seven consecutive games on the road and won only one of seven games against Eastern Conference competition.
But what should have been a rare opportunity to regain their lost momentum was smothered beneath an embarrassing 133-111 defeat that triggered a surprising revolt.
After trailing by as many as 27 points, the Knicks suffered their fourth consecutive defeat. It was so rife with ineptitude that many of the 10,241 fans vented their frustrations toward the player who was supposed to lead them from oblivion, Patrick Ewing.
In enduring one of his worst nights of the year - only 11 points and 3 rebounds in 26 minutes - the second-year center was showered with boos, jeers and cries for Eddie Wilkins, the Knicks' 12th man. In the third period fans began peppering the court with the life-sized posters of Ewing that they received as a promotion on St. Patrick's Day. One irate fan ran to courtside and ripped his poster to shreds."
As pathetic as that game was, I didn't participate in the booing or throwing. I actually picked up a few extra posters, although I never really did anything with them.
Point is, we boo the home town teams and players over here when circumstances push us.
We can be brutal to home-town players. I've never been one to boo the players on the team I root for, no matter how bad they're performing. I just don't get it. Players can have bad days, they get into slumps, so getting on them for not performing doesn't seem very productive or justified. They're human after all.
But this Lampard situation is something different. It's the first time I've considered booing an athlete. I'm still not sure if I'll do it, though.
But this Lampard situation is something different. It's the first time I've considered booing an athlete. I'm still not sure if I'll do it, though.
MikeDatTiger
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One of the great contributions of the city of New Orleans to fans everywhere.
typicalcity
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The paper bag thing is brilliant.!!
The funniest thing I saw at city was an irate fan went storming up to the manager gave him dogs abuse and threw his season ticket on the pitch before marching out of the ground in disgust.
An official went on to the pitch collected the season ticket and the club posted it back to him !!
I have stayed away from this thread because I understand the entrenched feelings that posters have for or against Lampard.
I just came on to say forget what the Daily Mail says as Lampard will see the season out in Manchester unless his contract is terminated by mutual consent, which isn't going to happen.
Just more rubbish from a newspaper looking for sales and/or clicks on their website.
I just came on to say forget what the Daily Mail says as Lampard will see the season out in Manchester unless his contract is terminated by mutual consent, which isn't going to happen.
Just more rubbish from a newspaper looking for sales and/or clicks on their website.
