General MLS Discussion

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So basically, in order to finish 4th we need to win both of our remaining games. If Orlando ties vs Atlanta on Decision Day, we would need to make up a 5-goal differential. If we win both games and Orlando loses to Atlanta, we finish 4th. If we beat Nashville tomorrow, fairly good chance we can finish 5th at the very least. We can't finish lower than 7th, so we won't be in the play-in game.
 
So basically, in order to finish 4th we need to win both of our remaining games. If Orlando ties vs Atlanta on Decision Day, we would need to make up a 5-goal differential. If we win both games and Orlando loses to Atlanta, we finish 4th. If we beat Nashville tomorrow, fairly good chance we can finish 5th at the very least. We can't finish lower than 7th, so we won't be in the play-in game.
Atlanta will also have to win to have any shot at the playoffs.

I still think getting 4th is a long shot but they have a good shot at finishing 5th with a win against Nashville.
 
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Fascinating to see that the west is already set. It’s just playoff teams jockeying for positions.
 
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This league has truly gone off the deep end in some ways. They think they're a lot bigger than they are. Despite some really impressive attendance numbers, the league is still a complete afterthought in America, but they act like they're as big as the big-4 leagues.

As stated.

If this league thinks fans in New England, New York, DC, Minnesota, Toronto, Montreal, Salt Lake, Colorado, Kansas City, St. Louis, Chicago, Columbus, Cincinnati, and Philadelphia are going to go to cold-weather games in the winter, there's a bridge in Alaska I'd like to sell them.

MLS is attractive as a sports entity to me because (a) games are relatively cheap compared to other sports and (b) going to outdoor events in the summer is fun.

If they're going to substantially raise prices while making an outdoor sport be played in the winter, it's a complete disaster. No one watches on TV because they put the entire league behind a paywall. Now they think they're going to get fans to show up in the winter?

 
As stated.

If this league thinks fans in New England, New York, DC, Minnesota, Toronto, Montreal, Salt Lake, Colorado, Kansas City, St. Louis, Chicago, Columbus, Cincinnati, and Philadelphia are going to go to cold-weather games in the winter, there's a bridge in Alaska I'd like to sell them.

MLS is attractive as a sports entity to me because (a) games are relatively cheap compared to other sports and (b) going to outdoor events in the summer is fun.

If they're going to substantially raise prices while making an outdoor sport be played in the winter, it's a complete disaster. No one watches on TV because they put the entire league behind a paywall. Now they think they're going to get fans to show up in the winter?

need to get rid of the damn leagues cup before they start thinking of this.
 
As stated.

If this league thinks fans in New England, New York, DC, Minnesota, Toronto, Montreal, Salt Lake, Colorado, Kansas City, St. Louis, Chicago, Columbus, Cincinnati, and Philadelphia are going to go to cold-weather games in the winter, there's a bridge in Alaska I'd like to sell them.

MLS is attractive as a sports entity to me because (a) games are relatively cheap compared to other sports and (b) going to outdoor events in the summer is fun.

If they're going to substantially raise prices while making an outdoor sport be played in the winter, it's a complete disaster. No one watches on TV because they put the entire league behind a paywall. Now they think they're going to get fans to show up in the winter?


probably not the best place to put this. should probably get moved to general MLS discussion.

but i don't think it's a bad thing. as the article points out, it eliminates a lot of the other sports competition for viewing and attendance. and they will basically take off all of january and resume in february, which isn't the worst thing. hand out blankets, handwarmers. maybe we can actually wear our many scarves! i mean, the NFL can run through january with the super bowl in early-mid february. they pick warm weather venues. the schedule can be adjusted for us in the same way.

and it would also make transfers a lot easier, which can help improve the league further. all in all, not a bad thing imo.
 
A flipped schedule solves many problems while creating several new ones. As Fantazma Fantazma noted, dropping Leagues Cup can solve a decent number of the same problems without the complications of a fall to spring season.

But they have to consider it from time to time. They would be fools if they did not occasionally reconsider a decision they made decades ago that put them out of sync with most of the soccer world. They also might be fools if they go through with it.
 
probably not the best place to put this. should probably get moved to general MLS discussion.

but i don't think it's a bad thing. as the article points out, it eliminates a lot of the other sports competition for viewing and attendance. and they will basically take off all of january and resume in february, which isn't the worst thing. hand out blankets, handwarmers. maybe we can actually wear our many scarves! i mean, the NFL can run through january with the super bowl in early-mid february. they pick warm weather venues. the schedule can be adjusted for us in the same way.

and it would also make transfers a lot easier, which can help improve the league further. all in all, not a bad thing imo.

If they play September-May, they are competing with more leagues in the regular season (NFL, college football, NBA, NHL), and their playoffs are during NBA and NHL playoffs. They'll get buried. The season begins during the MLB pennant race, the season ends with NBA/NHL playoffs.

At least now, the majority of the regular season only goes during MLB. The postseason has to deal with football, but also only deals with early-season NBA/NHL. This schedule gets them more attention than a winter schedule.

As of now our first home game is usually the 2nd week of March. February is the most brutal month of the year weather-wise. I realize down south this would work, but half the teams are in the north. MLS is a convenience league for many fans. It's there, it's fun, and the kids like it. People aren't taking their kids to a game in February in New York.

Also -- NFL regular season ends around Christmas. It's cold, but most of their season is in the fall when it's not miserable outside. Fans suck it up in January for the playoffs. That's a big difference. The NFL has had brutally cold games in January, but those are novel events because it's usually late in the postseason. Imagine a 25-degree regular-season game. NHL does its outdoor games, same thing. Novel, cool event -- but a generic regular-season game? No one's going in 25-degree weather.
 
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I for one would much prefer a September to May schedule (with a break in January-early February) that would finally put us in sync with most of the world. Granted you get a few cold weather games but honestly are they that much worse than 100 degree games in summer?
 
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I for one would much prefer a September to May schedule (with a break in January-early February) that would finally put us in sync with most of the world. Granted you get a few cold weather games but honestly are they that much worse than 100 degree games in summer?
I much prefer hot weather games to cold weather games. First of all, if it's played in the evening and you're not sitting in the sun, it's bearable. Cold weather games are just miserable and there's no way to warm up.
 
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If they play September-May, they are competing with more leagues in the regular season (NFL, college football, NBA, NHL), and their playoffs are during NBA and NHL playoffs. They'll get buried. The season begins during the MLB pennant race, the season ends with NBA/NHL playoffs.

At least now, the majority of the regular season only goes during MLB. The postseason has to deal with football, but also only deals with early-season NBA/NHL. This schedule gets them more attention than a winter schedule.

As of now our first home game is usually the 2nd week of March. February is the most brutal month of the year weather-wise. I realize down south this would work, but half the teams are in the north. MLS is a convenience league for many fans. It's there, it's fun, and the kids like it. People aren't taking their kids to a game in February in New York.

Also -- NFL regular season ends around Christmas. It's cold, but most of their season is in the fall when it's not miserable outside. Fans suck it up in January for the playoffs. That's a big difference. The NFL has had brutally cold games in January, but those are novel events because it's usually late in the postseason. Imagine a 25-degree regular-season game. NHL does its outdoor games, same thing. Novel, cool event -- but a generic regular-season game? No one's going in 25-degree weather.

the article goes through most of the positives and negatives. i personally don't think it'd be the worst thing but i am a soccer fan through and through with little to no interest in any of the other leagues in this country.

anyway - as others have said, leagues cup is probably the thing that needs to change the most. and by change i mean get rid of it or change the format/scheduling so that it's not as disruptive to our leagues chedule.

these season change discussions happen every few years and it still hasn't changed. it will really depend on how popular soccer becomes in this country so it can actually compete with the other leagues without worry. until they think the numbers support that, it probably won't happen.