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I believe the idea is to engineer the schedule so that northern teams get a preponderance of August/Sept and April/May games and southern teams Nov/Dec and Feb/March.
im very confused by this. while i never listened to it. it was league produced right? so why get rid of more content promoting your own league? i get it that messi fans dont listen but getting rid of it wont do anything either.
ZYanksRule
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Because it costs money and it's pretty clear MLS is cutting costs in areas like this. They've sliced their editorial staff, they produce no extra content for MLS Season Pass ... it's clear that they're cutting costs because they don't think Extratime or editorial coverage of their teams moves the needle.
I'm very worried about this season.
Year one of Season Pass has its hits and misses, it was understandable considering it was a pretty big project to launch. I felt some things gradually improved throughout the year.
Year two I was expecting some nice improvement from a match and supporting content perspective. Unfortunately, the budget seemed to have been slashed and non-game content was very limited and not worth watching. The game broadcasts got very bad, it seems they used less cameras, less production staff and the overall presentation, especially for everything except the marquee match. Watching matches was very frustrating. With the commentary teams being poorly prepared, the lack of timely replays, and a stunning lack of seemingly standard camera angles, I was extremely frustrated and had pledged to simply listen to our games via radio this season.
Year 3 seems more of the same cutting, even though et wasn't directly season pass, I'm suspecting that it indicates that MLS will not be increasing any budgets for season pass. I'm definitely not going to buy it this year.
Year one of Season Pass has its hits and misses, it was understandable considering it was a pretty big project to launch. I felt some things gradually improved throughout the year.
Year two I was expecting some nice improvement from a match and supporting content perspective. Unfortunately, the budget seemed to have been slashed and non-game content was very limited and not worth watching. The game broadcasts got very bad, it seems they used less cameras, less production staff and the overall presentation, especially for everything except the marquee match. Watching matches was very frustrating. With the commentary teams being poorly prepared, the lack of timely replays, and a stunning lack of seemingly standard camera angles, I was extremely frustrated and had pledged to simply listen to our games via radio this season.
Year 3 seems more of the same cutting, even though et wasn't directly season pass, I'm suspecting that it indicates that MLS will not be increasing any budgets for season pass. I'm definitely not going to buy it this year.
Remember when every team was going to have its own regular content?
The apple deal is panning out just about how we all expected it to. And what's going to happen is the deal is going to run out and then MLS is gonna scramble for some crap deal bc Apple ditched it...
Personally I'd love for it to be on ESPN+, mainly bc I have it.
but also because i think the audience reach would be a lot bigger???
Apple in the first place was a stupid decision by MLS. There's no reach to non-MLS fans at all.
Personally I'd love for it to be on ESPN+, mainly bc I have it.
but also because i think the audience reach would be a lot bigger???Apple in the first place was a stupid decision by MLS. There's no reach to non-MLS fans at all.
year 3 - cut extratime so they could fund the ONSIDES documentary from the guy who made F1 more popular with a similar documentary. and i have to say, the trailer does look good and there seems to be at least some time dedicated to malachi, so that's enough for me to watch.
is it more cost? they all were part of the apply tv broadcasts at one point or another. if anything it shows that apple aint really all in for this MLS deal imo.
AND they were supposed to have pre match and post match press conferences loaded and even 24/7 channel of each team.
There is NYCFC specific content on MLS Season Pass and it's normally just 2-4 minute videos. I miss the 10+ minute Behind the Scenes videos after every game. Some were even 20+ minutes long. That stuff was art. Now it's now, or just 4-6 minutes of footage.
Sure, MLS is more accessible now (if you buy the paywall) but it's not as deep as it used to be.
ZYanksRule
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The apple deal is panning out just about how we all expected it to. And what's going to happen is the deal is going to run out and then MLS is gonna scramble for some crap deal bc Apple ditched it...
Personally I'd love for it to be on ESPN+, mainly bc I have it.
Apple in the first place was a stupid decision by MLS. There's no reach to non-MLS fans at all.
Will they come crawling back to their regional networks (YES Network) when the Apple deal ends? It's absolutely a possibility. NYCFC game re-airs are already airing on YES as of midway through last season.
man i know people want this but man i dont. i dont feel like paying for fubo or sling just to get one channel. extra expense
After I posted I checked,* and yes, there was a lot more content than I realized. But most of the NYCFC stuff seemed to concern non-sporting stuff: Fanfests, CITC, fan profiles, etc. Not knocking that stuff -- if you like it, great -- but I don't much care.
* Always the best order to do things.
they also used to have longer inside training vids too. now you're lucky if it's 5 mins. they must have changed digital team members or been directed not to do as much? i'd be curious if this is a league wide thing or if it's just us slacking on content creation.
we are about to start year 3 of a 10 year deal. we have a long ways to go and a lot can change. i'm not convinced the appleTV deal is going to fail. apple is investing more into their streaming lately and MLS may be going along for that ride.
They just need time to implement their system.
If we saw improvement between year 1 and 2, I would share your optimism. Unfortunately we saw a regression, and have only seen indication of further regression going forward. I'm soured on this deal already and it will take something substantive to reverse that.
Even this new series is supposedly going to be on Apple TV+ and not season pass.
I can understand that. I just think 8 years (including this year) is a long time to say it's going to fail. Even if it's status quo for another 2 years, in year 5 they could revamp and things could be amazing. we just don't know.
RunningWise
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I’m just hoping they stop trying to pick up only young cameramen on their first job and instead get some experienced veterans to help out the broadcast. I’ve heard that AppleTV is making money by turning MLS into a development league of broadcasters for their Premier League Teams.
From what I understand, Apple is not involved with the production. The league produces and delivers the content to Apple.
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