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What the hell is with the books on this thread? Keep it short or I'll skim of skip ....ain't nobody got time for that. That being said we put ourselves in a huge hole because we have some shit players but fought back for a point and it was exciting and I'm happy.
 
The odds are long that any team against even the worst opponent can overcome a 2-0 deficit a man down. So you have to applaud the heart and determination that got it done. I have seen many a team in many a league just pack it in under those circumstances. With a struggling team, with some challenges in talent and depth, you have to emphasize the positive, and there is some here to work with.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm beyond happy to get a point, but I'm also afraid the excitement of the comeback could divert attention away from the dumpster fire that is RJ Allen as well as the depressing fact that Kreis apparently has no idea how to put a game plan/first XI together. On to RSL where Kreis will likely try to acquire another one of his favorites. :confused:
 
I liked the part of the game where we scored goals ... that was neat ... 2 times ... double-neat.

But in all seriousness - loved finally seeing Tommy Mac on the pitch. I saw some guy wearing his jersey right before the half and we chatted about him for a few minutes - both eager to see him play. Not I can present expert analysis but he looked like he wanted to be out there and played well.
 
It was not luck. It was hard work, grits and guts, talent from Villa , Saunders , Ballouchy, Khiry , Brovsky, Wingert, Mullins,Mix, OMG trying to remember all - please players forgive me If I don't recall your name. I love you ALL :)
Come on now - there was at least a little luck in your grits and guts recipe ;)
 
First 45 minutes (not counting 46th) was truly dreadful and even those preaching patience (including me since we don't all expect a new team to miraculously click in all areas overnight) couldn't really try to defend that. Dave Martinez on twitter even said he had never seen NYCFC actually "going through the motions" and I felt the effort was lacking as well at that point. Lack of effort at any level is unacceptable but somehow the team managed to turn it round. Considering it was 10 men and the huge improvement in the 2nd half its hard to say on balance that a point wasn't just about deserved. Don't think the first half should be sugercoated however at all we have to judge on balance over 90 minutes.

Considering the attendance increase from Philadelphia, Portland, etc there's hardly a risk of "losing the city" at all. Having individual zero tolerance for the slightest mistake is one thing but to suggest fans on the whole would turn on the team is a false accusation. Though there may well have been boos had Ballouchy not scored (and they would have deserved them too) and what was Allen supposed to do in that situation. Someone suggested Saunders had it covered but Allen won the ball. Granted it was his mistake that caused it in the first place but I refuse to agree with that red card. Shelton will probably never forget his moment for the rest of his life.

Hopefully that first half performance will be as bad as it gets for a long time.
Attendance can be influenced by many factors. Friday nights are a good time. Would have been better to kick at 8. I felt like attendance last night was pretty light to have that number.

And I didn't mean lose the city forever. Based on the first 45 minutes, I was questioning why I cared so much when the players couldn't be bothered to give a damn. The feeling in the stadium I was getting, I didn't strike me that I was the only one ready to go home. It was really depressing.
 
Based on the first 45 minutes, I was questioning why I cared so much when the players couldn't be bothered to give a damn. The feeling in the stadium I was getting, I didn't strike me that I was the only one ready to go home. It was really depressing.

Oh yeah, I was cursing like a sailor from minute 15 to 44. It was a sad state of affairs in that first half. Just fucking pathetic. We were looking at 1 pt from 12 against Philly/Chicago. Good thing we managed 2.
 
Oh yeah, I was cursing like a sailor from minute 15 to 44. It was a sad state of affairs in that first half. Just fucking pathetic. We were looking at 1 pt from 12 against Philly/Chicago. Good thing we managed 2.
Based on all the posts here talking about getting thrown out, I was pretty sure the first 5 rows of 215 were going to be empty. I missed the first goal, as it came in piss time (minute 43 to half is my designated restroom time, then sometimes I go again with 4 minutes left in the half if the beer service has been prompt). But it was by far the most belligerent I've seen the crowd. Between myself and the guys next to me (whom I believe were at least Mexican, if not FMF fans, so take that MLS demographics people), we covered the gamut of swearing in English and Spanish. Credit to my neighbors for being equally proficient in calling our players shit in either language.
 
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It's amazing how 10 seconds of decent plays by 3 guys can rewrite a half. Someone, I'm not sure who, made a good (not great) pass to Villa, who made a very good (but still not quite great) play to create his own shot, and then Ballouchy had the anticipation to follow Villa and push in a rebound. And those 10 seconds contributed by 3 players totally changed the half despite 45 minutes of crap by the other 8 and 44m50s of crap by those 3.
 
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It was a tale of two games. One team put us in the hole and the other team pulled us out by the force of its will. Who is on either team?

My Grades:
Saunders: 5
No blame on the penalty shot, but the goal was very soft and I can't figure out what he was doing coming off his line. Had two very good saves to keep us in it, on diving left on Accam(?) was SotW worthy.

RJ Allen: 1
Got his pocket absolutely picked by Accam, then compounds it by tackling him from behind in the box. He's already in the box! Let him shoot, at least you give saunders a chance to stop it. Tackle him and you guarantee a goal and get your ass thrown out. Please cut him. Kreis gets a major fail for starting him.

Hernandez: 6
Didn't stand out negatively, but I can't remember any plays standing out positively either.

Wingert: 4
At fault on first goal, well, maybe his parents are at fault for making him too short to be a CB, and on Kreis for starting him, and on Reyna/CFG for not providing a better option.

Brovsky: 4
Just is not good on the left. I remember one cross that was so bad, otherwise invisible.

Jacobson: 4
You need to be able to distribute from the CDM spot, and he just cannot link to the rest of the midfield. So many turnovers from that spot are killers on the defense.

Mix: 7
Busy, tracking back and breaking up plays was involved in the attack. When he gets the ball in an advanced position he can run the show. When he has to play the 10 and the 6 he is wasted. Sweet pass to Villa to set up the tying goal.

Ballouchy: 5
How does he keep scoring? Invisible the whole game then somehow ends up scoring. Credit to him, but it doesn't make up for backpassing and seeming clueless when moving forward. Could his set pieces be worse?

Alvarez 4
I don't even know if he touched the ball once before being subbed off.

Villa: 8
Took the game on his shoulders and earned us a point through force of will alone. Created both goals, and should have earned a penalty after being tackled from behind in a play too similar to Allen's top have let go. My biggest regret of us sucking is that we are wasting the time we do have to watch him.

Mullins: 7
Hustles and hustels, got himself into dangerous positions, nearly set up villa, and his dribbling is more confident.

Subs:

Facey: 6
Played well on defense, good positioning, I would say it was his best game for us. Not involved offensively, but that may have been by design to avoid getting countered on.

Shelton: 7
I wonder if he had his last miss in mind when he took this one early from a great through ball by Villa. So much better as a sub.

McNamara: 6
Great to see him out there, nice touch, should play more.
 
I could criticize this or that, but I'm so pleased they rallied from a two goal deficit (and down a man!) that I don't even care that [criticism omitted].

Although I don't know whether to be really pumped or really concerned that David Villa was tracking back like that. Could have set the world record for ground covered, last night.
 
RJ Allen: 1
Got his pocket absolutely picked by Accam, then compounds it by tackling him from behind in the box. He's already in the box! Let him shoot, at least you give saunders a chance to stop it. Tackle him and you guarantee a goal and get your ass thrown out. Please cut him. Kreis gets a major fail for starting him.

He was awful against Red Bulls, too. Yes, his crosses were good and he had an assist that game, but his defensive play is so bad (and he was perfectly terrible last night, too). I said it after last weekend, I'll say it again: he shouldn't play for us, let alone start.
 
Brovsky: 4
Just is not good on the left. I remember one cross that was so bad, otherwise invisible.
Gotta kind of disagree with this. Well, perhaps he isn't best when on the left side, but still.

I'm in 237, so for the first half he was basically playing right in front of me while defending. Yes, he did make one really bad pass to give it away but on the whole he was working his butt off and hustling to break up plays. He worked hard and made a difference, at least for the half where I could see him. Second half he was miles away from me in the opposite corner of the field so I can't really comment much on that but for the first half I thought he played well.
 
Another thought about this match is that Villa was everywhere. It was like he was making up for the NJRB game's somewhat lackluster performance. Sort of just to show everyone what he's about and why he's here, just to make sure nobody forgets. And on top of his normal attacking on offense he was also attacking on defense too, coming all the way back to be that extra man on defense just when we needed it most.

It wasn't that he was trying to prove Kreis wrong for taking him out early last time but more about him saying to the whole team through his actions that *this* is how we play the game.
 
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