Expansion drafts are in early December. So if what you say about Harrison's status as a HGP is true until December 31, we won't have to protect him.
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Expansion drafts are in early December. So if what you say about Harrison's status as a HGP is true until December 31, we won't have to protect him.
Bravo, Mendoza, and Gomez were all on our unprotected list last year.
Generation Adidas graduates were annouced on November 1st and were subject to the Expansion Draft. Harrison will definately graduate and we will have to protect him.
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Correct. But I don't expect the club to be paying that type of salary either.
I'm in the 2 Maxis and a Villa camp. Villa is the best player to have ever played in this league and he covers up for a lot of our deficiencies.
It's not terribly useful to spitball our Expansion Draft choices based on last year since the rules will likely be a lot different this time (only one team, growing desire to handle with extra GAM instead of moving players around).
Regarding loaned players, I think they are available, but if the loan is cancelled, then all the team gets is the priority to sign the player if they come back.
Regarding loaned players, I think they are available, but if the loan is cancelled, then all the team gets is the priority to sign the player if they come back.
I actually think this would be a fun discussion but maybe on another thread.
Not sure if there's confirmation yet, but if they keep the format the same, there will only be 5 rounds, so less than a 25% we lose somebody.
Now with that said, I'd expect the top 5-8 teams are the ones in the crosshairs as depth is a big reason why they finished at the top of the table, and the expansion draft is all about losing the #12/13 player on each team. The two ways I see the draft going is either take a high-priced starter (CB) or low-wage depth (type a forward or Mid). Our problem is that Brillant fits the mold of a starting caliber CB worth dropping $$ on, and our outside backs are essentially jewels in the rough being inexpensive starting defenders - those are definite 'takes' every time. At least two of the three will have to be left exposed, and I would be shocked if one wasn't snagged.
What really sucks about the E.D. is that it primarily harms the teams about to start playing in the regional tournament. Losing a #12-13 player is semi-detrimental to MLS' success as that player would definitely get playing time thus easing the burden on the rest of the roster. The counter argument is that it's only one player, but the counter-counter argument is any drop in quality is problematic if MLS has aspirations of winning the regional comps.
If they do have a expansion draft with just 5 rounds for one team, they should compensate the teams that have a player taken with some GAM or TAM. In our draft, there were 20 players chosen from 18 teams, so everyone was likely to get hit. Most who didn't get hit did so by buying their way out. So that pain was spread pretty evenly. But now fewer than 25% of teams will lose anything. It seems wrong to have them pay a price to seed LAFC while everyone else gets off for free.
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I don't remember where I recently read it, but teams losing a player get some amount of compensation ($50-100k?). That's why I'd be willing to throw ($50-100k) at LAFC to select TMac - they'd get him for half his salary for a season, and we'd rid ourselves of his uselessness and high Cap Hit.
Regarding Villa/Lampard/Pirlo type signings vs. Maxi type signings - some of this depends upon what is available at the time, and I think there are more choices than just that dichotomy.
The best possible signing is a "Villa" type - a guy who is not yet out of his prime, fits what you want to do, and is strongly internally motivated. But, those don't grow on trees.
Another category is the supremely talented guy that is struggling at a top club - the "Giovinco" type. Similarly, these are available infrequently. Not too many guys like this are willing to come to MLS. Schweinsteiger could be considered one, and it's not clear he will be back next season for Chicago. Chicharito is another, and he hasn't taken the bait.
The third category is the "Maxi" type - guys who are a little younger and a little below the elite, name-brand level, but still good enough to play in a Big 5 European leauge. These have tended to work well: alongside Maxi, think of Piatti, Lodiero, Valeri (lots of Argentines in this category for whatever reason). There are more of these around.
The fourth category are expat Americans who will come home for a big enough check. This one has gotten rather picked clean in the last few years, and returns here appear to be small.
The last category is younger DPs. Guys coming up who view the league as a stepping stone. Atlanta has gone long on this approach and it's worked great. These guys also count less against the salary cap and can bring GAM rewards when/if they are sold. Frankly, Herrera is a guy like this, but we lucked out by not having to count his acquisition costs.
My personal view is that you try to get one "Villa" type, one "Giovinco" type and one younger DP, and if you can't find what you are looking for, get a "Maxi" type.
The best possible signing is a "Villa" type - a guy who is not yet out of his prime, fits what you want to do, and is strongly internally motivated. But, those don't grow on trees.
Another category is the supremely talented guy that is struggling at a top club - the "Giovinco" type. Similarly, these are available infrequently. Not too many guys like this are willing to come to MLS. Schweinsteiger could be considered one, and it's not clear he will be back next season for Chicago. Chicharito is another, and he hasn't taken the bait.
The third category is the "Maxi" type - guys who are a little younger and a little below the elite, name-brand level, but still good enough to play in a Big 5 European leauge. These have tended to work well: alongside Maxi, think of Piatti, Lodiero, Valeri (lots of Argentines in this category for whatever reason). There are more of these around.
The fourth category are expat Americans who will come home for a big enough check. This one has gotten rather picked clean in the last few years, and returns here appear to be small.
The last category is younger DPs. Guys coming up who view the league as a stepping stone. Atlanta has gone long on this approach and it's worked great. These guys also count less against the salary cap and can bring GAM rewards when/if they are sold. Frankly, Herrera is a guy like this, but we lucked out by not having to count his acquisition costs.
My personal view is that you try to get one "Villa" type, one "Giovinco" type and one younger DP, and if you can't find what you are looking for, get a "Maxi" type.
You forget to place Pirlo. I guess he's after the younger DP category...
I kind of ignored the "aging star no longer in his prime" category since nobody expects those to happen anymore - at least not at a DP level.
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Besides the type of player there's the issue of whether anybody would spend DP money on a defensive player. Except for Bradley, and Bastian, I don't think there are many DPs of that kind. We managed to get a top notch 6 for this league on a TAM/GAM salary. The question is how much do you improve upgrading from Ring/Herrera to Khedira, or should DP money be primarily for attacking players? There's been a lot of talk about our fullbacks, but I don't see us getting DP fullbacks. If we replace Pirlo with a 10 we sit Maxi. If we replace him with a RW we sit Jack. Maybe LW? Striker and move Villa lower?
I agree that is probably the position to go after if Herrera is returning in 2018. If not, then we need a box-to-box mid.
One thing to keep in mind is that we may not be in the market for a DP after next season. If Villa comes back for 2019 - and I think we all have to acknowledge that is likely - then our 3 DPs in 2019 will be the same as in 2018: Villa, Maxi and whomever we sign in this offseason.
The point being that we need to think about our needs for more than just 2018 when deciding where to place this resource.
Do you move Villa to LW, a position he can play, and sigh a 9 instead? TORRES?
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