NYCFC in the Media Thread - 2024

ZYanksRule said:
TL;DR: If you're still explaining what MLS is 29 years into its existence, that's your problem. American sports fans may not follow MLS writ large, but sports fans know it exists, and know what it is. American sports fans don't need to be "introduced" to MLS every time the Times thinks to write about it.
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Okay. Thanks. Helpful to understand the gripe. I guess the question is who were they writing for? Were they writing for the small group of fans in the know or the larger group of readers who really don’t know much about MLS. It’s fair to say they should almost always write for the former. After all, that’s what journalism generally does, especially in sports. But then you would need knowledgeable writers. That would mean a larger staff. If you want more / better journalism, the answer is to subscribe to the publications most likely to deliver. I do have a NYT subscription in addition to several other media outlets. I don’t even consume much on any of them. But I keep my subscriptions because I fear for our society when real journalism truly goes away.
 
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Sorry if this has been brought up, kind of skimmed along the last page plus without glasses. As long as MLS is going the USA playoff route, why not have the final at a predetermined location like the Super Bowl? Is it fear of not getting enough fans to show up? I imagine that must be where Garber wants to take this league.
 
mgarbowski said:
I mostly agree, and yes NHL is still niche in the US. But it's also more than 3x the revenue of MLS and did not have to convince US hockey fans to watch it instead of or addition to better hockey leagues worldwide when it grew to the size it is now. So I think MLS does need to adjust to grow in the US market.

BTW, I never before looked at the Wikipedia list linked above. It's kind of weird to think that the NHL is niche in the US but the fifth biggest league by revenue worldwide. I also was a bit taken aback to see MLS is placed as high as 10th on that list, but when I saw where it was placed among the competition it made sense.
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I agree but we have to remember it took 33 years before the NBA Finals were not on taped delay. The NFL was around 38 years before “The NFL Greatest Game”. We are still in the still in the early years compared to other leagues. NHL and NBA have almost 2.5X inventory of games to sell to fans and TV networks which is why newspaper and TV have to pay attention to these leagues more.
 
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Joe_Cos said:
I agree but we have to remember it took 33 years before the NBA Finals were not on taped delay. The NFL was around 38 years before “The NFL Greatest Game”. We are still in the still in the early years compared to other leagues. NHL and NBA have almost 2.5X inventory of games to sell to fans and TV networks which is why newspaper and TV have to pay attention to these leagues more.
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Not to mention none of those leagues have meaningful foreign competition.
 
I think it also does severe harm to MLS to not be on cable/broadcast TV anymore. My father is not a sports fan, but he was watching the Yankees postseason games.

I told him I was going to the NYCFC game yesterday, he asked what network it was on. "Apple TV, you need a subscription to watch.,"

MLS is catering to its diehard fans, which is great for the diehard fans. But it is a complete afterthought for the casual fan when they can't watch games on TV and refuse to spend the money to stream it on Apple.
 
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ZYanksRule said:
I think it also does severe harm to MLS to not be on cable/broadcast TV anymore. My father is not a sports fan, but he was watching the Yankees postseason games.

I told him I was going to the NYCFC game yesterday, he asked what network it was on. "Apple TV, you need a subscription to watch.,"

MLS is catering to its diehard fans, which is great for the diehard fans. But it is a complete afterthought for the casual fan when they can't watch games on TV and refuse to spend the money to stream it on Apple.
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Yup couldn’t agree more. Plus the sports bars.
 
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Antidote P. Smiley said:
Sorry if this has been brought up, kind of skimmed along the last page plus without glasses. As long as MLS is going the USA playoff route, why not have the final at a predetermined location like the Super Bowl? Is it fear of not getting enough fans to show up? I imagine that must be where Garber wants to take this league.
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We did that for the first 15 or so years of the league. Attendance was very spotty and crowds were less passionate. With a home team you are basically guaranteed a sellout with a TV friendly fired up crowd.
 
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413Blue said:
We did that for the first 15 or so years of the league. Attendance was very spotty and crowds were less passionate. With a home team you are basically guaranteed a sellout with a TV friendly fired up crowd.
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pretty much this. the event isn't big enough to have a neutral venue and have a sellout crowd, like the super bowl or world series. people go to those whether they care about the teams or not because it is an event to be seen at and/or brag about being there about. MLS Cup is not that, not yet, and who knows if it ever will be.

take for example the NWSL championship. They held the final in Kansas city despite the teams being from Washington and Orlando. The crowd didn't look sellout to me and stadium atmosphere didn't seem are rowdy as their playoff games in their respective home stadiums.
 
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moogoo said:
no stupid 1v1 keeper shootout
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I’ve heard that this is being actively as a viable alternative to Pens in other markets. Arguably it’s a more accurate skill test. It would be hilarious if this turned out to be MLS’s contribution to global football.
 
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I’ve heard that this is being actively as a viable alternative to Pens in other markets. Arguably it’s a more accurate skill test. It would be hilarious if this turned out to be MLS’s contribution to global football.
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Pablo Maurer had an article in the Athletic last year about US innovations we now take for granted in soccer.

1926 The American Soccer League allows 2 subs per match. Substitutions first added to the Laws in 1958. NASL went to 3 subs in 1973. Only adopted worldwide in mid-90s.
The ASL also had hockey style penalties way back; IFAB approved trials last year.
1984 NASL institutes a complicated anti-backpass rule. Simple global rule adopted 1992.
1982-3 NASL adopts DOGSO rule. IFAB 1990.

Some of these were proposed in Europe first, but IFAB moved slowly. The Americans jumped on them and eventually IFAB caught up.

 
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Watching CNBC, they were talking about the Amazon Black Friday NFL game. One of the commentators said companies like Apple aren’t signing major league sports rights deals.

I snarked.
 
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not sure if this video was ever posted when it was released but i was watching some football manager videos from zealand and only now found out he did a mini doc on the hrd. after years of the rivalry growing stale it was kinda nice to see a neutral have an appreciation for it
 
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