Nycfc's Mls Rivals

TBH, nobody. You have to piss someone else off for them to care about you, and you can't do that by losing.

Toronto is the closest, but to call it a rivalry now is setting the bar really low for a rivalry. It's a start though. I could definitely see a Leafs-Pigeons rivalry becoming among the biggest in the Eastern Conference, given that our two teams will likely have the highest payrolls and therefore biggest stars. But it will take 3-5 years and a couple key matchups before that happens.

Basically this.

For a rivalry to exist, the spanking has to come from both sides. Right now, we're not beating anyone consistently. The Red Bulls rivalry is unique because of the battle for NYC, but they own our asses right now.

But I honestly don't see a rivalry being bigger and more emotional than the one against the Red Bulls. That's our true rivalry, and the only one I will care about.
 
1. Red Bulls
2. Orlando
3. Toronto
4. Montreal
5. New England
6. LA
 
From a team perspective, we don't have one yet. It take several years of epic showdowns, improbable come-from-behind wins, bloody physicality, boisterous voices and utter hatred, to develop a true rival. As some of you have stated, the Toronto games comes close, but it isn't quite there yet.

However, from my perspective, the Red Bulls certainly are my rival, even at this early stage. I equate losses to them to with how I feel when losing to my most hated rival, the NY Jets. It is an ill feeling, that prevents me from reading/seeing/hearing anything sports related (for a week) so I don't have to remember the excruciating painful experience that comes when you lose to the team you love to hate the most!
 
For a rivalry to exist, the spanking has to come from both sides.
Some level of parity helps but it is not required.
The Yankees and Red Sox had a fierce rivalry that lasted about thirty years (it really began in earnest in the mid-70s) before the Red Sox achieved anything resembling parity in the mid-Oughts. Going the other way, Kraft, Belichick and the Pats hate, hate, hate the Jets even though the Jets might as well be a semi-pro team in terms of their competitive relationship with the Pats.
 
I love those rivalry games when, regardless of how good or bad the teams are, they give their all because its their rival. Those make for the most enjoyable viewing experience in sports.
 
Some level of parity helps but it is not required.
The Yankees and Red Sox had a fierce rivalry that lasted about thirty years (it really began in earnest in the mid-70s) before the Red Sox achieved anything resembling parity in the mid-Oughts.

The teams' on-field rivalry really began in the DiMaggio/Ted Williams days. The highlight of that period was the 1949 season, in which Joe D. missed the first several months of the season with a foot injury. The teams were neck-and-neck all year, with the Bosox pulling ahead in the final week.

The Yanks and Red Sox were scheduled to end the season with two games against one another; the series began with the Bosox in first place by one game. The Yankees won the first game, which left the teams tied with a game to go, thereby making the final game of the season a de facto playoff game. (Which the Yankees won.)

The rivalry faded somewhat after the retirement of Joe D. (whose brother Dom had played for the Red Sox and was on the 1949 team), and even further after Williams's career ended. The Red Sox didn't become serious yearly contenders again until the Yankees had entered their "lean years" after 1964.

Not until the mid-70s could the two teams battle each other again as perennial powerhouses; and at that point the rivalry flared anew to become baseball's fiercest. But it certainly didn't start there.



To answer the original question: the games against Toronto were the chippiest. The one against D.C. United was the most satisfying. Eventually the games against the Galaxy will have significance. But I cannot overlook the Red Bulls. That's *the* rivalry.

By the way, the setting on this board that changes N.Y.R.B. to NJRB is silly. There should be no issue with calling other teams by the names that they actually have, regardless of anyone's opinion of any particular name.

Furthermore, while I dislike the Red Bulls, I don't begrudge them the use of the name "New York". Indeed, the fact that they use the "New York" name is a tribute to New York City, in that it declares loudly that places in northern New Jersey derive their significance from their proximity to New York. We should note that Negro League teams called the New York Black Yankees and the New York Cubans played at a stadium in Paterson. (Incidentally, Paterson's Hinchliffe Stadium is the last Negro League park that's still standing.)

I have always been an arrogant New Yorker who unapologetically sneers at New Jersey. But, to be honest, Newark/Harrison is not one of the places that I sneer at. I like Newark a great deal; and I love the great cities of transit-rich Hudson County, such as Jersey City and the eminently bikeable Hoboken. A New Yorker can feel very much at home in those interesting cities, unlike in the awful nowheresville suburbs that make up so much of Jersey.

So my beefs with the Red Bulls are 1) that they retain the stink of early MLS; 2) that they carry a corporate name. But the fact that they use the locality name "New York" doesn't bother me in the least. It is only natural for a team that plays in one of North Jersey's large cities to identify with New York, as those cities are part of the great megalopolis of which we are the centre. This board should cease the practice of altering the correct abbreviation of the Red Bulls' name. Such pettiness is beneath us.
 
The rivalry faded somewhat after the retirement of Joe D. (whose brother Dom had played for the Red Sox and was on the 1949 team), and even further after Williams's career ended.
Exactly. What grew in the 1970s had almost nothing to do with the late 40s rivalry, which I am quite familiar with, and omitted for brevity's sake and an interest in not typing so much. But I welcome your interest in complete information.
 
I'm going to speak for myself, I don't feel it for me or really anyone else no one really cares about Orlando

Orlando was purely based off the fact of supporters effort. We traveled well to them and they traveled well to us. We each made a tifo for each other. And I could see from my seats that their fans were redneck assholes.

I guess if you have to convince people its a rivalry then its not a rivalry haha. (They at least think we are their rivals)
 
1) RBNJ
2)Boston Revolution

but I always hated both of those teams anyway (DC native).

By the way, the setting on this board that changes N.Y.R.B. to NJRB is silly. There should be no issue with calling other teams by the names that they actually have, regardless of anyone's opinion of any particular name.
 
Orlando might not be our best fit for a rival, but holy hell I'd love to be in their position right now. Even with their big DP out against SKC their players showed exactly the kind of determination ours needed to show in this slump. Hopefully we can pull out at least one big home win like that this week. We all need it.

#startPoku
 
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