Its an awful tweet. I, and no other medical professional I know, would call an avulsion fracture a fractured pelvis.
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Still believe that was the right move to do.
we traded cap money for a guy with a broken pelvis.
You are completely correct!
In many ways, an avulsion fracture is like a stress fracture, in that it's not a "real" break and treatment requires rest, icing, and range of motion exercises. As a runner and running coach, I'm very familiar with stress fractures, and while they keep you from training for a set period of time, they all heal on their own, and the affected hairline area is stronger than it was prior to the injury. With an avulsion fracture, it too will heal on it's own, unless the bone fragment has moved too far off of the source bone and then surgery is required - this is easy enough to see with medical imaging - therefore, if he hasn't gone under the knife, then it wasn't spaced far enough away to require it. This is also the reason the initial diagnosis would have been incorrect - the bone fragment had not pulled far enough away to be discernible on the medical imaging, thus they assumed it was a groin strain (I believe that was the original diagnosis).
So what does that mean for recovery time? I would imagine it's a slow, gradual climb to full health, especially for something as strenuous as professional soccer.
At least six weeks' rest, then starting rehab. Could be another month or two after that. He's young, that works for him. Injury came up right before combine so I'd say he will be starting rehab soon, then just depends on how that goes. setbacks, complications, etc. Could start to see him in April or May.
No idea because A) I'm not a doctor and B) I don't know the timetable of when everything happened (injury, playing time on it, when he shut down, etc). I can tell you that a stress fracture in the lower leg can take 6-10 weeks to heal depending on severity and how much repetitive stress was put on it after the injury (i.e. running through the pain). If really bad, a person can use crutches to alleviate all stress on the bone, thus healing faster but limiting their ability to get around (tough for non-pro athletes that have to transit the city). However with a hip injury, one cannot simply stop all movement/stress on the area unless they go to a rascal/wheelchair. Plus, some movement and stress is beneficial because it keeps range of motion and actually initiates the healing process - what is not wanted is heavy stress from running/cutting, but walking is usually fine.
That said, once properly diagnosed, my guess is that he initially was kept from a lot of activity and did heavy treatments of ice and electric stim, then likely moved to water running so get range of motion & strength resistance without impact. At some point, his physios will have him add in thera-band exercises to increase resistance and range of motion. I would also guess that the team is maximizing any treatments he's getting, so whereas somebody like me that can only fit 2-3 1hr PT visits in each week because I have a job, Harrison could be getting 2hrs of treatment twice a day every day.
So unless he needs surgery later, I still think he's coming back in the summer, or sooner. He's the team's future and they're doubtful to want to rush him back too quickly.
Good news: Should find out about the international spot today
well if harrison is out for extended amount of time then not so good news.
I guess in the long run it really is meaningless, but I still find it annoying that 72 hours have passed since the deadline and MLS still hasn't updated the rosters page on the web site.
Can't imagine this would happen where any of the Big 4 leagues are concerned.
Can't imagine this would happen where any of the Big 4 leagues are concerned.
All due respect, that's not true at all. The NFL is cryptic, but the NBA, NHL, and MLB are all generally very open and descriptive about injuries. NHL stops being descriptive during the playoffs, but -- for example -- the NY Rangers give complete injury information all the time. NBA teams are painfully specific regarding injury updates, as are MLB teams. They all give specific timetables on almost all injuries, unless they simply don't know.
This is an NYCFC thing. Perhaps it's an MLS thing. If it is, I do believe the team and the league should be more open. By the way, this isn't a mellennial thing for me -- I work in journalism, I believe in open information.
While annoying, I'd venture that no news is good news because it suggests that the League is allowing teams the extra time to figure things out and/or make necessary trades.
MLB can be as open as they want because they simply sign another player - it's in their best interest to stick a person on the DL and max out their roster. As you point out, the NHL is a double-standard depending on the time of the year, but they still will promote another player from their minor-league affiliate - again, it's in their best interest to warehouse a guy on the DL. The NBA is the only league that is painfully specific without gaining something like MLB or the NHL in the form of a replacement player.
While I am a news-hound to the N-th Degree, with all due respect, Journalism is inherently defined by entitlement.
Good info on Jack Harrison. This is all I'm asking for when it comes to injuries. Just be honest and forthright with the fans. That's all I'm asking for.
http://www.empireofsoccer.com/sources-nycfcs-jack-harrison-is-not-out-for-the-season-45365/
On Twitter, Dave said the timetables were as of the beginning of training camp, which means Harrison could resume training as soon as a month from now.
http://www.empireofsoccer.com/sources-nycfcs-jack-harrison-is-not-out-for-the-season-45365/
On Twitter, Dave said the timetables were as of the beginning of training camp, which means Harrison could resume training as soon as a month from now.
I don't think the team has not been forthright regarding Harrison - they said he'd be back, and that 2-4 month range is in line with what I said about 6-10 weeks for recovery from a stress fracture, just shifted 2 weeks for being an avulsion fracture. The hoopla started yesterday because of a report based on anonymous sources claiming he'd miss the entire season - perhaps there was a case of phonebooth and somebody got the facts wrong when it was described as Pre-season, not the entire season? Very likely a case of somebody wanting to get news out without honestly checking their facts.
This is why I hate any sort of news outlet - journalists and bloggers - that refuse to name sources in order to put them on the spot for verification and validity. They're making news rather than reporting news.
Hey guys, when #1 overall picks are injured before ever suiting up for the team, it's not always a bad sign. Right?
Can I get a refund on my 2016 Authentic NYCFC Secondary kit customized with Harrison #11? He'll never be wearing it this season.
Interesting development. One thought I had is that MLS gave us the permanent international spot that Chivas USA acquired in 2004. X-Files: MLS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLS_International_Roster_Slots
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