I wouldn't worry about this. Protests wll be either local community groups or opportunistic nonprofits focused on sometiing like open space or "human rights". I don't mean to sound dismissive, those things are important.
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Alexandria was always on the table - they had two cities from the get go, except that Alexandria was offering approximately half and Amazon was fine with it while demanding so much more from NY.
Will be very interesting if the human rights issues come up. More and more high profile NYC "institutions" (e.g. Guggenheim and NYU) are getting in bed with Abu Dhabi.
all about the money baby!
when the "leaks" of the whole complex were shown ( the one that had the stadium, housing etc) i recall a good amount of NJRB fans on twitter tagging local authorities/representatives saying that the stadium should not be priority that affordable housing was the main issue in city etc. when before not a peep about the issues before that plan was leaked. so yes its possible but i dont think its massive.
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Once this thing is announced, there will be pushback from multiple places, and how the Club and its partners handle that will determine whether the stadium is built.
Some locals will voice opposition, but hopefully that will only be a small group. If it's big and noisy, they may have to recut the deal somehow.
You know the guys at Field of Schemes are going to jump all over the deal as including government subsidies for the stadium, whether or not that's even true.
The acid test is going to be whether the progressive left starts in on it the way they did on the Amazon deal. If AOC and her cadre weigh in, that might be hard to overcome. The inclusion of affordable housing in the deal will hopefully make a big difference here.
Some locals will voice opposition, but hopefully that will only be a small group. If it's big and noisy, they may have to recut the deal somehow.
You know the guys at Field of Schemes are going to jump all over the deal as including government subsidies for the stadium, whether or not that's even true.
The acid test is going to be whether the progressive left starts in on it the way they did on the Amazon deal. If AOC and her cadre weigh in, that might be hard to overcome. The inclusion of affordable housing in the deal will hopefully make a big difference here.
The stadium isn't even in AOC's district. That being said, you know she's going to talk about it. The stadium is in the 15th congressional district where Jose E. Serrano (D) is the Congressman since 2013 (and in Congress since 1990 in other nearby districts). However, he isn't running again for his seat in 2020 due a diagnosis of Parkinson's Disease. So it is really within the club's interest of getting this done before a primary race unfolds for this district and the stadium becomes an issue of debate.
That's at least twice you've asserted as fact that progressives will object to stadium subsidies whether or not they exist with zero evidence. Bark up some other tree.
He clearly said the "acid test is going to be whether the progressive left starts in on it". In no way is that asserting facts lol. He's offering speculation through history that it could happen, not that it's going to.
He said "progressives in the city are going to claim there are major subsidies for CFG in the deal, whether or not that's true" and "the guys at Field of Schemes are going to jump all over the deal as including government subsidies for the stadium, whether or not that's even true."
Rumors of the Union moving to downtown Philly are gaining traction. They’ll probably have a second stadium before we have our first
Sorry if I offended you. I am not trying to put politics into the thread - politics being probably the only thing that the Stadium thread ought not contain.
I think it's pretty clear from prior discussions that the Field of Schemes crowd will twist the facts any way it can to make it look like a stadium proposal includes subsidies or to maximize the claimed amount of those subsidies. It is literally the sole reason the site exists. You can disagree with that, which is fine. I just don't think any of that is inherently political or otherwise off base for discussion.
As to any position that AOC or other NYC progressives might take - I don't know what they'll say. I only meant to point out that they wield substantial power to influence public opinion and perceived subsidies for a stadium are the kinds of things that have drawn their attention. Indeed, it is why De Blasio killed the GAL site 5 years ago.
honestly surprised they didn't build their soccer stadium down in south philly with the rest of the stadiums. it's pretty much a sports park down there and has always been for the longest time. it's weird that they chose to go to chester. of course i have no idea why they went to chester in the first place. maybe the eagles/flyers/sixers didn't want to share?
There is an interesting article in the Athletic about Philly and Chester. Was a whole urban renewal thing. The governor was on board and the state kicked in some money. The whole idea was to redevelop the waterfront, but so far the only things that have been built are the stadium and Philly's nearby practice facility. The rest of the area is still very run down.
Sounds like Harrison.
There was the board member of the Whitney who resigned in July amid increasing protests (and art exhibits within the museum) highlighting his company's role selling military products around the world... including tear gas used against migrants recently at the southern border.
What a thing to Say!! Your going to have to ask atonement next week on Yom Kippur!!
