2016 General Mls Transfer Rumors

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Nycfc plays in the champions league? (European version)
No, but possibly the Americas version next year....

And is that silly cup really more important than, as Midas Mulligan mentioned, being in the midst of the most fertile ground of eligible single Jewish women? His mom should just take charge of Steve's transfer negotiations and get him traded here - we get the American CB we need, he has an opportunity to play for a winning team, and she is a step closer to becoming a Bubby.
 
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No, but possibly the Americas version next year....

And is that silly cup really more important than, as Midas Mulligan mentioned, being in the midst of the most fertile ground of eligible single Jewish women? His mom should just take charge of Steve's transfer negotiations and get him traded here - we get the American CB we need, he has an opportunity to play for a winning team, and she is a step closer to becoming a Bubby.

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No, but possibly the Americas version next year....

And is that silly cup really more important than, as Midas Mulligan mentioned, being in the midst of the most fertile ground of eligible single Jewish women? His mom should just take charge of Steve's transfer negotiations and get him traded here - we get the American CB we need, he has an opportunity to play for a winning team, and she is a step closer to becoming a Bubby.
Plus the % of LAYDEEZ that have done their military service is higher than here in the states so he won't necessarily have to be the one to go fight a would be home invader.
 
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Anything to keep him away from the USMNT. And if he moves there, I hope he trades for Grababoy and Wingert.
The interesting point about it is, Kreis could barely win at YS, so there's a good chance when he visits he'll be just as confused on tactics. Maybe we can try long throw-ins against his team and be successful.
 
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The interesting point about it is, Kreis could barely win at YS, so there's a good chance when he visits he'll be just as confused on tactics. Maybe we can try long throw-ins against his team and be successful.

Also an extra motivating factor for our players that hated him.
 
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So Kwarasey was sold by Portland, that frees up both some money and an international spot.

They were one of the teams trying to sign Mix a while ago. Could be nothing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Reyna called them up to gauge interest in Mix.
 
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So Kwarasey was sold by Portland, that frees up both some money and an international spot.

They were one of the teams trying to sign Mix a while ago. Could be nothing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Reyna called them up to gauge interest in Mix.

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Been thinking about the potential Larin -> Benfica for $10M rumor.... a sale like this makes *zero* sense for the club while a lot of sense for the league.

1. Since Larin was drafted within the previous 3 years, the rules applying to him are different than the normal 2/3 payout of a "regular" squad player signed during a transfer window:
A club shall receive the transfer or loan fee revenue (including agent fees and other expenses) from any transaction involving a Generation adidas Player or player acquired via the MLS SuperDraft based on the number of MLS service years:
MLS Service Years: Transfer/Loan Fee Revenue to Club
1 1/3 <-----------------
2 1/2 <-----------------
3+ 2/3
Since we're halfway through the 2nd season, let's say Orlando gets 2/5 of the transfer. That would end up being $4M total of which $650K could be GAM.

2. As a newly drafted player, Larin's salary for 2016 is $135K - well below a DP/TAM level and not taking one of the spots while arguably being just as effective.

3. To replace Larin, Orlando would have to pay a minimum of $200K+ and likely closer to $400-700K for a guy that effective and young. To do this would use up all of the GAM received in the transfer. The alternative would be to make his replacement a DP, to keep the Cap hit low, but Orlando already has (3) DPs in Kaka, Rivas (youth), Rochez (youth) - so this doesn't work (for them).

4. If Larin is replaced with a player of comparable ability, they could theoretically cover the CAP hit this year with the GAM, but then the following years would be dicey - whereas Larin would still be operating under his sustainable initial contract for likely 2-3 more years.

5. The club would still have the remainder of the $4M transfer surplus ($3.35M), so they would have fuller coffers, but is that worth the headache of replacing Larin?

6. MLS reaps $6M from the transfer..... they WIN with the deal.

7. What is interesting, is the paragraph that states what the club's ($3.35M) surplus can be used for:
  • The remaining balance of the club’s share (if any), and which cannot be traded, will be available to be used by clubs in the following ways:
    • Against the expenses incurred by the club in relation to the costs of an existing or new Designated Player
    • With league approval, clubs can use the revenue against an expense that would (i) would not otherwise have been incurred by the club; and (ii) reasonably represents an investment in the league or club (e.g. youth development and training facilities).
I have always assume the 2nd bullet point - misc club operating/infrastructure expenses (not payroll) - but the first bullet point is interesting a little ambiguous. what exactly are the "costs" they are referring to: paid transfer fee, salary (above the max Cap Hit $ MLS pays), etc. If transfer fee, that's a nice point since MLS hates to fork over $$ for that and instead opts for out-of-contract players.

As a side note, everything written above also applies to the potential transfer of Harrison. NYCFC would get the short end of the stick to let him go and try to replace him. Their strategy should be to resign him, when this contract expires, as a youth DP for at least 1 year to keep the Cap hit at $150K. After that, depending on his salary he'd either remain a DP or be a TAM player.

Unless MLS changes the rules so that more than $650K can be used as GAM, it doesn't make sense for any team to ever give up a GA/HG/Drafted player while they're still in the middle of their first contract. Never ever.
 
Been thinking about the potential Larin -> Benfica for $10M rumor.... a sale like this makes *zero* sense for the club while a lot of sense for the league.

1. Since Larin was drafted within the previous 3 years, the rules applying to him are different than the normal 2/3 payout of a "regular" squad player signed during a transfer window:

Since we're halfway through the 2nd season, let's say Orlando gets 2/5 of the transfer. That would end up being $4M total of which $650K could be GAM.

2. As a newly drafted player, Larin's salary for 2016 is $135K - well below a DP/TAM level and not taking one of the spots while arguably being just as effective.

3. To replace Larin, Orlando would have to pay a minimum of $200K+ and likely closer to $400-700K for a guy that effective and young. To do this would use up all of the GAM received in the transfer. The alternative would be to make his replacement a DP, to keep the Cap hit low, but Orlando already has (3) DPs in Kaka, Rivas (youth), Rochez (youth) - so this doesn't work (for them).

4. If Larin is replaced with a player of comparable ability, they could theoretically cover the CAP hit this year with the GAM, but then the following years would be dicey - whereas Larin would still be operating under his sustainable initial contract for likely 2-3 more years.

5. The club would still have the remainder of the $4M transfer surplus ($3.35M), so they would have fuller coffers, but is that worth the headache of replacing Larin?

6. MLS reaps $6M from the transfer..... they WIN with the deal.

7. What is interesting, is the paragraph that states what the club's ($3.35M) surplus can be used for:

I have always assume the 2nd bullet point - misc club operating/infrastructure expenses (not payroll) - but the first bullet point is interesting a little ambiguous. what exactly are the "costs" they are referring to: paid transfer fee, salary (above the max Cap Hit $ MLS pays), etc. If transfer fee, that's a nice point since MLS hates to fork over $$ for that and instead opts for out-of-contract players.

As a side note, everything written above also applies to the potential transfer of Harrison. NYCFC would get the short end of the stick to let him go and try to replace him. Their strategy should be to resign him, when this contract expires, as a youth DP for at least 1 year to keep the Cap hit at $150K. After that, depending on his salary he'd either remain a DP or be a TAM player.

Unless MLS changes the rules so that more than $650K can be used as GAM, it doesn't make sense for any team to ever give up a GA/HG/Drafted player while they're still in the middle of their first contract. Never ever.
Thanks for this. Really great analysis. It seems that a team with 3 DPs is destined to lose in these arrangements. What would happen if a team who sold a player above a certain threshold - let's say $5M - was given an extra DP slot for some number of years?

They would still lose money on the deal. But they could increase their competitiveness (if they were willing to spend) and theoretically have some or all of that expense come back in revenue on the new player's merch and impact to the team (CCL, etc).

Or is this crazy talk?
 
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