2018 Roster Discussion

[Fantazma]

Sell him. $3 Million profit. What do we get out of that again? What’s the MLS. S NYCFC breakdown?

Wide players are a strength right now.

so we go two DP's for rest of season? we will get another "panic" DP signining and then all complain why they dont produce right away.

take medina out, castellanos injured. all we got lewis to back Tajouri, the other side wallace/ berget?

 

[Gotham Gator]

Remember I posted a couple weeks ago how the team was having its best ever year for average number of DPs playing per game?
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Not sure what the angry raccoon has to do with this, but I love it.

 

[Gotham Gator]

so we go two DP's for rest of season? we will get another "panic" DP signining and then all complain why they dont produce right away.

take medina out, castellanos injured. all we got lewis to back Tajouri, the other side wallace/ berget?

Too late for any signing. Rosters in MLS are locked.

 

[mgarbowski]

Not sure what the angry raccoon has to do with this, but I love it.

I thought he was laughing mockingly.

 

[Fantazma]

Too late for any signing. Rosters in MLS are locked.

then fuck that ...dont sell....unless kid really wants to go.

 

[Kjbert]

lol what? do you want to keep anyone thats good in our team? if they want to go fine, but not be like sure lets put them up for sale.

Of course. Which is why I would make Ring a DP.

Tinnerholm amd Isi are replaceable this is assuming it nets you a profit and GAM.

 

[Kjbert]

Too late for any signing. Rosters in MLS are locked.

You can sign a free agent.

 

[Ulrich]

Too late for any signing. Rosters in MLS are locked.

Aren’t teams still able to sign out of contract players? Not that there are many out there worth a deep dive to replace a DP

 

[Kjbert]

Pros:
Nets a profit
We are deep on the wing
Shows other young players this is a good step before Europe
Maximum GAM
None of us are in love with him as a DP anyway
He’s probably a bench player right now anyway

Cons:
MLS transfer window is closed
He provides cover at the 10 for Maxi
Grass isn’t always greener for the next purchase

 

[Fantazma]

Of course. Which is why I would make Ring a DP.

Tinnerholm amd Isi are replaceable this is assuming it nets you a profit and GAM.

tinnerholm maybe....but Isi is hard to fine man, where you gonna get 10 goals in season like that from non DP player in first year in league. I do want to keep him. Think lampard was last one to do that, cant remember if jack ever got that too.

im of the idea to keep ring how he is AND get another DP as well, even if he deserves the spot.

 

[Kjbert]

CFG Friends and Family Free Transfer?

YAM hopefully

 

[Fantazma]

Pros:
Nets a profit
We are deep on the wing
Shows other young players this is a good step before Europe
Maximum GAM
None of us are in love with him as a DP anyway
He’s probably a bench player right now anyway

Cons:
MLS transfer window is closed
He provides cover at the 10 for Maxi
Grass isn’t always greener for the next purchase

im not in love as a DP but i do give him first year pass since dude is probably not used to physicality of this league, and needs to adjust ( like maxi last year as DP)

he aint getting benched much i think since Dome does like him.

 

[Fake Jew]

Is a similar offer being on the table in January really not an option? If this were offered in July I'd take it in a heartbeat with the entire window to find a new DP.

 

[adam]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1030521842455343104

Okay...some MLS roster rules and then some math...

Jesus Medina is a Designated Player. Thus...

• If a Designated Player is transferred or loaned, the club will receive all amounts of the transfer or loan fee revenue until it has recouped all out-of-pocket cash payments made by the club in connection to that player prior to any sharing arrangement with the League. After such recoup, the transfer or loan of the Designated Player shall be treated as any other transfer with the club receiving three quarters (3/4) of the corresponding transfer or loan fee revenue.

The club's share of transfer or loan fee revenue may only be used as follows:

• " The club may assign up to US$750,000 of the transfer/loan revenue as General Allocation Money. (In the case of Designated Players, such assignment of Allocation Money can only take place after the club has received 100% of their out-of-pocket investment)
• The remaining balance of the club's share (if any), and which cannot be traded, will be available to be used by clubs in the following ways:
  • Against the expenses incurred by the club in relation to the costs of an existing or new Designated Player; or
  • With League approval, against an expense that (i) would not otherwise have been incurred by the club; and (ii) reasonably represents an investment in the League or club (e.g., youth development and training facilities)

Now for the math...

We paid $4M for Medina with 80% of future sale clauses, I believe according to tweets. This would net 5.944. We receive $4M to recoup the cost of the sale. That leaves a let of $1.458M after MLS gets it's share of the profit. That nets 750K GAM. The remaining $750K could be used to buy down the cost of Maxi's sale or possibly make him a TAM player. Maybe?

TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN!!!!!

 

[sbrylski]

I don't think our MLS Cup hopes hinge on Medina. They hinge on Villa, Maxi, Ring, and Johnson. I'd take the offer and maximize our flexibility this winter when we are remaking the team in Dome's image and replacing Villa.

 

[Kjbert]

tinnerholm maybe....but Isi is hard to fine man, where you gonna get 10 goals in season like that from non DP player in first year in league. I do want to keep him. Think lampard was last one to do that, cant remember if jack ever got that too.

im of the idea to keep ring how he is AND get another DP as well, even if he deserves the spot.

Couple of thoughts here. I assume that all of these guys prefer to be back in Europe and expect to go back. Ring specifically made that clear.

I think we have a scouting advantage and will for a long time. Selling these players also nets you a profit that can be used to purchase a replacement. I have faith in the European scouts. They haven’t missed.

If Ring was English, where would he be right now?

 

[Kjbert]

I don't think our MLS Cup hopes hinge on Medina. They hinge on Villa, Maxi, Ring, and Johnson. I'd take the offer and maximize our flexibility this winter when we are remaking the team in Dome's image and replacing Villa.

This is where I’m at. This team will depend on Villas health and form.

 

[Fantazma]

Couple of thoughts here. I assume that all of these guys prefer to be back in Europe and expect to go back. Ring specifically made that clear.

I think we have a scouting advantage and will for a long time. Selling these players also nets you a profit that can be used to purchase a replacement. I have faith in the European scouts. They haven’t missed.

If Ring was English, where would he be right now?

eh we did get brillant out of that , berget is up for debate to me still, nemec was bad. but i see what you saying. i just done want to give up talent easily without trying to convince them, if their mind is made up then there is nothing to do.

If ring was english? probably be lower prem team or more likely the championship

 

[Fantazma]

I don't think our MLS Cup hopes hinge on Medina. They hinge on Villa, Maxi, Ring, and Johnson. I'd take the offer and maximize our flexibility this winter when we are remaking the team in Dome's image and replacing Villa.

true just the timing of it is bad for us, we dont have time to find a good replacement ( or someone better). If this was earlier then it be easier to take the offer.

 

[Kjbert]

eh we did get brillant out of that , berget is up for debate to me still, nemec was bad. but i see what you saying. i just done want to give up talent easily without trying to convince them, if their mind is made up then there is nothing to do.

If ring was english? probably be lower prem team or more likely the championship

Exactly. Ring would be playing for Huddersfield. We’ve taken advantage of a quirky market with our Scandinavians