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It had its own thread.
NYCFC In Talks With Peruvian Forward Raúl Ruidíaz
http://thenycfcnation.sportsblog.com/posts/17281791/nycfc-in-talks-with-peruvian-forward-ra--l-ruid--az.html
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so various places saying that he will stay for the "clausura" tournament in Uruguay playing with Torque. I am trying to find dates for the tournament. i believe it will start in January until possibly May, however other places say it will start late december and end late February 2021 but officially not announced. So if he does come he wont do preseason and possibly will miss the first few weeks of MLS season.
So Uruaguay sources say he’s playing for Torque and MLS ones say NYCFC. Makes sense. Is he really going to play consecutive half seasons for 2 different CFG clubs?
I can wait for him til summer, but he’s not worth keeping a half year DP slot empty.
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it seems that he was bought for 3.5M then left on loan on nacional and now on torque. if he comes to us will his full 3.5M fee still be placed on our books? maybe its lower since hes already played in other teams and maybe can be paid down with GAM or something to non DP status.
If the full fee was paid, the full fee would be on our books or NYCFC could just have CFG buy every player for us on loan to circumvent the cap hit on the transfer fees.
There is some maneuvering that could happen. Yangel Herrera was never a DP because CFG paid his transfer fee in installments to make sure he never crossed the DP threshold but the transfer fee amortization rules were a little different back then.
arent fees normally paid in installments anyway around the world?
and just a general question, say real madrid paid $20M for a brazilian player and has a three year contract and after year two they want to loan him out because he has not performed or needs minutes and someone MLS wants him. does that mean this automatically makes him a DP? because of his fee that real madrid paid? not so much for his salary ?
The salary cap rules on loans from non-affiliated clubs are much more relaxed than they are for affiliated. This makes sense, because if Real Madrid wants to pay a huge fee and/or salary for a player, then loan him out to some unrelated MLS club, then that is an arms length transaction. But if a CFG club does the same and loans him to us then it is likely we are trying to get around salary cap rules, and both the transfer fee and salary count.
Also as
EganSoccerWords noted, there are rules on amortization for transfer fees over time, but I have no idea what they are. But a $20M transfer fee would not count as the full $20M three years later. I just don't know how much.
The Red Bulls tried to do this Omer Damari. The mothership bought him for a couple million. Loaned him to Salzburg the next season. Loaned him to New York after that. They tried to argue that his salary was under the DP threshold so he shouldnt count, but the league made them use a DP spot on him.
Grain of salt because that was 2016, but that is the only comparable situation I can think of.
I would also think that MLS would perhaps view deals between MLS clubs (us, Red Bulls, Colorado, Montreal) and their parents/sister clubs with more scrunity.
Hopefully he would be "signed" by NYCFC and not loaned to us. Because if the transfer fee was in the $3M range, that would be $700K/year based on a five-year deal, and you still have room to give him good wages while still being a TAM player. Certainly seems like we have plenty of allocation, maybe this is one of the reasons we had to acquire all of it.
And Ruidiaz who also has a horrible record scoring internationally for Peru, to the point of being the subject of countless memes.
I honestly would dig a fringe #10 from a top 10-20 FIFA ranked team.
We should of signed Agustin Palavecino (23yrs old) who plays for Deportivo Cali out of Colombia. He's a number 10 but also plays right mid and right wing at times. The kid has incredible vision, he rarely makes the wrong pass and reminds me a lot of a right footed James Rodriguez in his style of play. The kid is also a true warrior he tracks back often and gives his all every single game. He also has a terrific right foot and is a really good finisher and penalty taker. Right now he is only valued at 1.4m on transfer market, but I think Xolos may have just picked him up for 4mil. 
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lol, i commented in that thread, i have no recollection of him being discussed. Although it doesn't look like i was being serious.It had its own thread.
NYCFC In Talks With Peruvian Forward Raúl Ruidíaz
http://thenycfcnation.sportsblog.com/posts/17281791/nycfc-in-talks-with-peruvian-forward-ra--l-ruid--az.html
barco still has a chance i think. even though we are in his make or break year for that fee they paid for him.
a few of these guys already had shots in Europe. You can’t tell me that a guy that scores 25 goals in Brazil can’t play here.
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