2023 Roster and Transfer Discussion Thread

Which positions do you think need a new signing?

  • Goalkeeper

    Votes: 3 5.8%
  • Center back

    Votes: 20 38.5%
  • Left back

    Votes: 12 23.1%
  • Right back

    Votes: 17 32.7%
  • Defensive Midfielder

    Votes: 5 9.6%
  • Midfielder (standard)

    Votes: 12 23.1%
  • Attacking Midfielder

    Votes: 12 23.1%
  • Striker (forward)

    Votes: 48 92.3%
  • Left Winger

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Right Winger

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    52
This is admittedly a bit half-baked but is there any chance the team intentionally delays signing a chunk of our roster each year as a way to try to gain a salary cap advantage? As others have pointed out the 1st 15 games of the season are mostly meaningless with how many teams make the playoffs. If every season you hold off on 2-3 signings for about 25-35% of the season that's a fairly sizeable cap/GAM/TAM savings depending on which contracts you do it with. Say this year we hold off on a DP ($400K cap hit) and two $700K TAM/Gam-type players for 30% of the season that's a $540K savings.

In a capped league trying to drive parity is it possible that this is some sort of money ball approach by our front office or am I overthinking it and we are just slow with our signings?
I think there's something to this.
I don't think this holds up to the data.
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interesting he signs an extension to 2027. He can be those very good MLS players with the occasional Gold Cup Appearance. I dont think he gets hype ( maybe his agent dont got the connections) and is a reason why he didnt have many suitors after 2021 MLS Cup.
 
interesting he signs an extension to 2027. He can be those very good MLS players with the occasional Gold Cup Appearance. I dont think he gets hype ( maybe his agent dont got the connections) and is a reason why he didnt have many suitors after 2021 MLS Cup.

This quote from David Lee is particularly interesting.

“It was a priority for us to try and ensure James returned to New York this season. Despite opportunities to continue his career in Europe, we are pleased that we’ve been able to reach an agreement on a new contract and convince James that this is the right place for his continued career progression. We know James’ ambition remains to play at the highest levels in Europe and we will continue to support him with his career aspirations.
 
This quote from David Lee is particularly interesting.

lmao this is what i get for not reading the article and just reading headlines. im curious what options was he getting in europe ? Like a second division team ? or a bottom table team in like netherlands or portugal or something?
 
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Could it be just trying to save some face for Sands since he's coming back to MLS and maybe wasn't garnering much European interest in the larger leagues? Make it look like WE had to convince him to come back and that this is best for him, rather than staying in Europe?

i personally believe this is what happened. he could of left for free whenever his contract ended and tried his luck like callens. instead he signed an extension.
 
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Could it be just trying to save some face for Sands since he's coming back to MLS and maybe wasn't garnering much European interest in the larger leagues? Make it look like WE had to convince him to come back and that this is best for him, rather than staying in Europe?
I mean, he did an OK job at one of the best scottish clubs - there's very good chance he was being looked at by teams in other european leagues but figures that coming back to MLS will give more of a spotlight than say the turkish league mid-table.

...Surprised Deila also isn't trying to bring him to Liege, tbh?
 
Assuming the Santi news is true and made official soon, we're a DP striker away from having a really good XI with good depth on the bench.

Potential lineup:
Talles-DP striker-Pereira
Sands-Santi-Parks
Cufre-Chanot-Martins-Ilenic
Barraza

Among the bench options:
Thiago Andrade
Matias Pellegrini
Justin Haak
Alfredo Morales
Malte Amundsen
Tayvon Gray
(Maybe one more depth CB piece can go here, as well)

I think that team would be right back to being MLS contenders. That's a damn good team.
 
Assuming the Santi news is true and made official soon, we're a DP striker away from having a really good XI with good depth on the bench.

Potential lineup:
Talles-DP striker-Pereira
Sands-Santi-Parks
Cufre-Chanot-Martins-Ilenic
Barraza

Among the bench options:
Thiago Andrade
Matias Pellegrini
Justin Haak
Alfredo Morales
Malte Amundsen
Tayvon Gray
(Maybe one more depth CB piece can go here, as well)

I think that team would be right back to being MLS contenders. That's a damn good team.
We have Alfaro for the depth piece at center back. Owusu, too. So, really it's just the striker. We may be able to get by just fine with Thiago and Gabe Segal (who may be another steal) at center-forward until the summer.
 
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I don't think this holds up to the data.
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It's hard to say because I don't think they were doing this from year 1 so the sample size is small assuming they only started recently. Looking at the end of seasons releases table you posted previously 2021 possibly supports this idea.

In 2021 Mitrita was released at the end of the year and not replaced with Magno til July. Our two other largest salary expenses for 2021 were also delayed til July (Santi signing and Taty extension).

2022 is less supportive as Medina left at the end of the year and Martins arrived in time for the season so the DPs are a wash. I still think the Martins signing was less about team need and driven mostly by some type of CFG need to either shift his costs away from Yokohama or fix a situation where Martins was unhappy in Japan. From a non-DP standpoint, we shed large contracts of Thorarinsson and ITS and only took on Pellegrini who I assume was cheap as he was a buyout.

Very inconclusive but I don't think the recent data rules the theory out I think it's more of a too-early-to-tell situation.

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We have Alfaro for the depth piece at center back. Owusu, too. So, really it's just the striker. We may be able to get by just fine with Thiago and Gabe Segal (who may be another steal) there until the summer.

Yeah, I would think we're not signing that DP striker until after the European striker. Which, frankly, is fine. We can get by until then.
 
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I mean, he did an OK job at one of the best scottish clubs - there's very good chance he was being looked at by teams in other european leagues but figures that coming back to MLS will give more of a spotlight than say the turkish league mid-table.

...Surprised Deila also isn't trying to bring him to Liege, tbh?

maybe he did and it was one of his opportunities?
 
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Yeah, I would think we're not signing that DP striker until after the European striker. Which, frankly, is fine. We can get by until then.
That's what I've been thinking -- we're waiting until things shake out after the end of the European seasons. No doubt in my mind we already have some targets identified. It's a matter of the math and who becomes available.
 
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Assuming the Santi news is true and made official soon, we're a DP striker away from having a really good XI with good depth on the bench.

Potential lineup:
Talles-DP striker-Pereira
Sands-Santi-Parks
Cufre-Chanot-Martins-Ilenic
Barraza

Among the bench options:
Thiago Andrade
Matias Pellegrini
Justin Haak
Alfredo Morales
Malte Amundsen
Tayvon Gray
(Maybe one more depth CB piece can go here, as well)

I think that team would be right back to being MLS contenders. That's a damn good team.
Would still need to add some depth at the 10 such as a Ledezma as rumored.

But agreed, that lineup can contend for the cup and with Sands returning, all of a sudden, the lineup flexibility opens up massively.
 
Would still need to add some depth at the 10 such as a Ledezma as rumored.

But agreed, that lineup can contend for the cup and with Sands returning, all of a sudden, the lineup flexibility opens up massively.

Of course -- Sands can also be CB depth in addition to his position in the midfield. Santi returning moves Pellegrini back to his position. A DP striker moves Talles back to his position and gives us quality depth on the bench, and if we get Ledezma that adds even more.

Maybe David Lee knew what he was doing all along.