NYCFC Confirm Departure of PV. Nice Confirm Arrival of PV as Manager.
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Can't fault him for leaving mid season. It's not his fault. It's the MLS schedule
Please please please don’t let him offer transfer fees for Isi & Ring on the way out.
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We can. He signed a contract. He’s stated many times he’s under a contract that he’ll honor. The honorable thing to do is see out the year/contract and take 6 months off to recharge or be part of the new club getting up to speed.
Lol, RT and tagged NYCFC.
Thing is, football is a notoriously unsentimental and disloyal sport. It pretty much encourages it in players and managers. I doubt there are many people in the sport who truly feel as strong a connection with the fans as they claim, barring those who stay in one place for a decade - and look at how quickly many of us have been willing to criticise PV for his shortcomings, so he would likely highlight that as proof that it goes both ways. There's precious little reason to actually be willing to put your entire career on hold for 6 months (12 months if you consider rejecting a job offer and forcing yourself to work to the end of the season as the origin point of the on-hold status) just to make an expression of loyalty that literally no-one else in the sport would be willing to make.
And then on top of that you need to consider that if he had extra years on his contract, he would have to buy them out with his own money or take a chance on the board being willing to let him leave for free (if you are signed by another club, they will typically pay for your contract to be bought out) and also on the possibility that any potential team he might look to join after 6 months in the wilderness may look quite negatively on him resigning from a team and then just waiting around for a job offer to come by, precisely because it happens so rarely that clubs will assume instead that there were ulterior motives behind him leaving that may suggest he's an undesirable candidate.
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Would it be dishonorable for the team to fire a coach or get rid of a player who was still under contract, then?
Nope, not if the club said every week that they were honoring the contract, and part of honoring it entails the player getting paid.
Now if PV’s contract has a buyout clause with penalties, fine, let him trigger the clause. I’m just tired of the disingenuous double-talk. And PV is the ultimate demagogue ass for holding his players to a higher standard than himself - he banished Mix for whatever transgression and Lewis is in the same boat, but Vieira has been in talks with at least three euro clubs while saying he’s happy here.
Those gestures of loyalty and connection are one of the saving graces of the game though. This feels like a bit of a defeatist and self-fulfilling assessment and / or prophecy.
It's hard for me to believe that Villa does not genuinely feel a connection to our supporters, for example. Iniesta in his last cup final. Those glimpses of pathos still pop up from time to time and wipe away momentarily all the noise.
No, because they'd be responsible for paying out the balance of the contract, thus fulfilling their obligation.
When a player does this, we to turn to shreds. If Ring were rumored to be signing with Cardiff, effective June 1 and was planning to ditch his MLS contract, you'd be forgiving?
Why is it different for a manager?
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As long as we were properly compensated for him leaving, there's nothing we could do about it.
This idea that players and coaches have anything like the kind of loyalty we project onto them is adorable.
And I'm sure it doesn't work both ways either. I can only imagine the reaction we would get on here if Medina had told us in January he wouldn't join us until July because he felt he had unfinished business in the Paraguayan leagues.
Villa still leapt at the chance to rejoin the Spain team at the expense of multiple NYCFC games a season, though...
Grant Wahl has got to stop the unsubstantiated pondering - what makes him think Kompany would make a good coach and what makes him think NYCFC would want him? Has he even picked up any coaching badges?
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