Sorry I've just been witness to this conversation for a while now. It just happens to be a touchy subject for everyone.
We Are Nycfc Not Mini-mcfc (with Respect)
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Sorry I've just been witness to this conversation for a while now. It just happens to be a touchy subject for everyone.
Probably for the best, not that I brought it up, but it will undoubtedly pop up from time-to-time, either warranted (in the poster's opinion) or unwarranted and unnecessary.
It's cool, Bro. I'm here to make friends.
And, I'm new here. I tried to find a thread to see if this was already beaten to death and I guess I missed it. My bad. Can you send me a link where this was talked about and I'll catch up?
They're are going to be a lot of "new" people over the next few months/years and I hope we can all be patient with each other's relative inexperience, assuming they aren't raging jerks haha.
Sometimes we are also just going to have different opinions and that's cool too. If we all thought the same there would be no point to a "discussion" forum.
And, I'm new here. I tried to find a thread to see if this was already beaten to death and I guess I missed it. My bad. Can you send me a link where this was talked about and I'll catch up?
They're are going to be a lot of "new" people over the next few months/years and I hope we can all be patient with each other's relative inexperience, assuming they aren't raging jerks haha.
Sometimes we are also just going to have different opinions and that's cool too. If we all thought the same there would be no point to a "discussion" forum.
Haha: good one. The context isn't the same, but ya have me there.
And it motivates me to change my profile pic. I should follow my own advice and keep it all about NYCFC
We hear this a lot from newcomers and honestly if you look around the forum you don't see much let's do this like city does or this worked for city let's do it.
We are trying to do our own thing. Which is why MCFC supporters catch flak here every so often. Underservingly so at times.
You get views from both sides of the fence. You might think we are taking too much from MCFC and MCFC die hards think we aren't doing enough to show gratitude.
We are trying to do our own thing. Which is why MCFC supporters catch flak here every so often. Underservingly so at times.
You get views from both sides of the fence. You might think we are taking too much from MCFC and MCFC die hards think we aren't doing enough to show gratitude.
Interesting. This has been a VERY educational thread for me. Thanks to all that chimed in!
I'd like to restate though that we are all "newcomers." The history of our club is just newly born. Statistically, most future fans of NYCFC 2015 have yet to knock on our door. No one owns the higher ground here no matter when you started posting in this forum and no matter when you bought your season tickets so let's all try to be cool to each other and withhold most if not all negativity. Respect. Same team.
I'd like to restate though that we are all "newcomers." The history of our club is just newly born. Statistically, most future fans of NYCFC 2015 have yet to knock on our door. No one owns the higher ground here no matter when you started posting in this forum and no matter when you bought your season tickets so let's all try to be cool to each other and withhold most if not all negativity. Respect. Same team.
I like the positivism! You walked into a bit of a fire storm with the topic of this thread so don't take anything personally. For the most part everyone is excited for NYCFC. There will always be those who will say that this is a MCFC club. On the other side you will always have instigators who are are against NYCFC that will blame you for being a MCFC fan.
This will be a reoccurring problem and unfortunately I do no think it will go away..ever. However, like you said this is the very beginning of the club. Hopefully through time we can prove we are NYCFC fans and nothing more. Whether we like it or not MCFC is a huge part of this club (branding/ownership/coaching/scouting system) and if we can all come to terms with that and move on I think we should be fine.
For the record I DID at least find The People V Manchester City thread in the Debate Desk:
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/the-people-vs-manchester-city.213/
AND I can see how this has been a sore subject, especially considering even this thread (from April) was considered an "old topic", so again: my bad. That being said it wasn't easy to find, but the mistake to bring up the subject WAS easy because it is in fact interesting.
Might I recommend making this thread or one like it easier to find by tacking/pinning it to the top of a section because no doubt it will come up again from another FNG like me. Just a thought to increase the peace.
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?threads/the-people-vs-manchester-city.213/
AND I can see how this has been a sore subject, especially considering even this thread (from April) was considered an "old topic", so again: my bad. That being said it wasn't easy to find, but the mistake to bring up the subject WAS easy because it is in fact interesting.
Might I recommend making this thread or one like it easier to find by tacking/pinning it to the top of a section because no doubt it will come up again from another FNG like me. Just a thought to increase the peace.
I don't support Man City, but if NYCFC plays like a Premier League reserve team, then we'll win the MLS Cup EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.
As a complete outsider to this discussion, having ZERO alligence to any EPL team..dare I say a borderline dislike of just about every one of the top teams in the league (MCFC included) and being a Milan supporter...
I have to say I think keeping as much distance from ANY other club's culture is best..though there will be an inevitable influence from MCFC...they do own us...the "City" nickname is fitting..the colors are generally the same..etc..
In addition there are only so many catchy little tunes to go around, and they are used by clubs all over the world with words changed to fit their needs..
Every effort needs to be made however, to establish a NYC first culture
I have to say I think keeping as much distance from ANY other club's culture is best..though there will be an inevitable influence from MCFC...they do own us...the "City" nickname is fitting..the colors are generally the same..etc..
In addition there are only so many catchy little tunes to go around, and they are used by clubs all over the world with words changed to fit their needs..
Every effort needs to be made however, to establish a NYC first culture
I'm ok with adopting whatever songs/chants etc, as long as they're basically just lifted as a template for us, since we're just getting started and you may as well start somewhere, but I really want to think of the club as the opportunity to start something new in the MLS, rather than just as an MCFC colony in New York (disclaimer: I support another prem club and would prefer we didn't sing "Blue Moon"). I understand who owns us and the debt we owe that club, but since we have an opportunity to do this our way from scratch, let's forge an independent identity. Our own shirt sponsors, our own traditions, etc.
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First Post, second paragraph:
"Additionally, I don't think we should adopt any Chelsea themes or any other professional clubs' themes either including the Yankees whom I also support."
"Additionally, I don't think we should adopt any Chelsea themes or any other professional clubs' themes either including the Yankees whom I also support."
If that was directed at my post I was referring to the large numbers of posts elsewhere in this forum. Not yours per se.
Pulls pin from grenade ...
CFG is a holding company, created to minimise risk for ADUG should anything go tits up (a Get Out Of Jail Free card, if you will). Its prime aim and only concern is to hold shares and accounts of anything under the ADUG banner; CFG creates nothing, nor does it offer services to anyone, let alone any football club.
Additionally the formation and creation of a holding company helps the parent company with paying less tax, which is obviously very beneficial to the owners. Holding companies are becoming more and more widespread when dealing with hundreds of millions of dollars (if not billions).
In the legal World, technically speaking, a holding company is the 'top dog', but only because this is where the registration and paperwork is held; in reality, it is an office manned by a few people protecting the main interests of the Parent company.
... lobs grenade.
CFG is a holding company, created to minimise risk for ADUG should anything go tits up (a Get Out Of Jail Free card, if you will). Its prime aim and only concern is to hold shares and accounts of anything under the ADUG banner; CFG creates nothing, nor does it offer services to anyone, let alone any football club.
Additionally the formation and creation of a holding company helps the parent company with paying less tax, which is obviously very beneficial to the owners. Holding companies are becoming more and more widespread when dealing with hundreds of millions of dollars (if not billions).
In the legal World, technically speaking, a holding company is the 'top dog', but only because this is where the registration and paperwork is held; in reality, it is an office manned by a few people protecting the main interests of the Parent company.
... lobs grenade.
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