2018 Roster Discussion

[Midas Mulligan]

That's funny. The Peruvian national team also went hard after him about 3 or 4 years ago (his dad is Peruvian) before he had any caps with the USMNT, and he also rejected our overtures.

Yes, I remember. I’ve liked him a while. But fair to say he didn’t deliver quite as much as was expected.

 

[Gotham Gator]

No idea where this should go but...

https://twitter.com/x/status/995467082937651200

Interesting stuff. He would be good for the USA, I think. I've read that the setup for that position was discouraging many candidates, but maybe US Soccer has improved the powers & responsibilities.

I think this should be its own thread.

 

[Marito]

Yes, I remember. I’ve liked him a while. But fair to say he didn’t deliver quite as much as was expected.

Since we're in the subject of half-Peruvians who rejected the overtures of the Peruvian national team, Gianluca Lapadula (Peruvian mom) is a Serie A striker with AC Milan who climbed up after being the top scorer in Serie B with Pescara, I think, and hasn't been successful. He also had one or two caps with Italy in 2016 and then fizzled out. He's the kind of player who may want to salvage his career in MLS instead of returning to Serie B, maybe.

 

[Kangaroo Jack]

Since we're in the subject of half-Peruvians who rejected the overtures of the Peruvian national team, Gianluca Lapadula (Peruvian mom) is a Serie A striker with AC Milan who climbed up after being the top scorer in Serie B with Pescara, I think, and hasn't been successful. He also had one or two caps with Italy in 2016 and then fizzled out. He's the kind of player who may want to salvage his career in MLS instead of returning to Serie B, maybe.

he'll probably stay with Genoa

 

[Midas Mulligan]

Since we're in the subject of half-Peruvians who rejected the overtures of the Peruvian national team, Gianluca Lapadula (Peruvian mom) is a Serie A striker with AC Milan who climbed up after being the top scorer in Serie B with Pescara, I think, and hasn't been successful. He also had one or two caps with Italy in 2016 and then fizzled out. He's the kind of player who may want to salvage his career in MLS instead of returning to Serie B, maybe.

Pretty good player the little bit I’ve see . Would be a nice pickup since we’re just wishing.

 

[mgarbowski]

I'm starting to think that Sweat starting over Mata even when Mata is ready might be due to Vieira not trusting Mata to go 90 without breaking down. I realize PV has confounded us with some of his roster choices in other ways, so it doesn't have to be rational, but . . .

 

[canchon]

I'm starting to think that Sweat starting over Mata even when Mata is ready might be due to Vieira not trusting Mata to go 90 without breaking down. I realize PV has confounded us with some of his roster choices in other ways, so it doesn't have to be rational, but . . .

Mata will play all 3 group games in the WC and pull a muscle in the last ten minutes of Costa Rica’s final game and be out for six weeks

 

[mgarbowski]

Mata will play all 3 group games in the WC and pull a muscle in the last ten minutes of Costa Rica’s final game and be out for six weeks

Is it wrong that I found myself sort of hoping he'd get injured during the pre-WC friendly period, to start the inevitable recovery period ASAP?

 

[SoupInNYC]

I'm starting to think that Sweat starting over Mata even when Mata is ready might be due to Vieira not trusting Mata to go 90 without breaking down. I realize PV has confounded us with some of his roster choices in other ways, so it doesn't have to be rational, but . . .

After seeing Ofori play spot minutes at LB last night, I'm hoping he gets a run out there while Mata is gone, even if its for a half. I thought he displayed some decent 1v1 defensive skills for a little bit there. At least more than we've seen from Sweat or Mata.

 

[Kjbert]

Claudio would be fantastic in that role. It would make a lot of sense for him and US Soccer. Wouldn't be my first choice but I like it.

 

[gbservis]

I'm starting to think that Sweat starting over Mata even when Mata is ready might be due to Vieira not trusting Mata to go 90 without breaking down. I realize PV has confounded us with some of his roster choices in other ways, so it doesn't have to be rational, but . . .

It's possible the mistrust is warranted, with his eyes on the WC I wouldn't put it past Mata to go down at any point and call for a sub if he even feels the slightest bit of a twinge. Mata reminds me a bit of Javier Calle, both got hurt often, both called for subs shortly after coming on, both often recovered quickly from what their limping and grimacing appeared to indicate was a very bad injury. Sometimes you start to wonder how much of it is mental and how much of it is physical.

 

[LionNYC]

Some roster notes after talking with Claudio in LA...

- Medina signed a 5 year contract with the transfer fee being amortized over the first 4 years years, so the only time he can be brought down to non-DP status is in his 5th year. I think we sell him before then.
- We have room to sign a TAM player still. I asked about Iniesta or Torres and he said no. However, thinking Villa will retire after this season (or takes a lower salaried contract), we may be able to do a TAM to DP player.
- No real comment as to why Orlando got 100% of the Larin transfer and NYCFC only got its MLS roster rules and regulation amount for Harrison.

 

[SoupInNYC]

Some roster notes after talking with Claudio in LA...

- Medina signed a 5 year contract with the transfer fee being amortized over the first 4 years years, so the only time he can be brought down to non-DP status is in his 5th year. I think we sell him before then.
- We have room to sign a TAM player still. I asked about Iniesta or Torres and he said no. However, thinking Villa will retire after this season (or takes a lower salaried contract), we may be able to do a TAM to DP player.
- No real comment as to why Orlando got 100% of the Larin transfer and NYCFC only got its MLS roster rules and regulation amount.

Good stuff. How is the Medina transfer fee being amortized over only the first 4 years? That doesn't seem to fit within the posted roster rules (not questioning your info, moreso just MLS-ness).

 

[Gotham Gator]

Good stuff. How is the Medina transfer fee being amortized over only the first 4 years? That doesn't seem to fit within the posted roster rules (not questioning your info, moreso just MLS-ness).

Option year?

 

[sammy3469]

Option year?

Yup...option year that isn't likely to trigger (i.e. it requires some very high level of starts).

I do find it sort of strange that they saw fit to use a DP slot on a guy with a first year salary charge of 1.7 million. That's quite possibly the worst salary range in MLS these days. Granted they get a free 300K-350K on the cap, but it seems like a lost opportunity.

 

[The Toe]

Source: MLS tweaking trade rule to Discretionary TAM signings
The rule could help bring an influx of high-profile players while promoting more movement between teams.

Discretionary Targeted Allocation Money (TAM) is a relatively new initiative by MLS, one that looks poised for a change to its implementation in the not too distant future.

Metro has learned that players signed via Discretionary TAM can now be traded, a move that MLS could announce this week, a source close to the situation says. Up until now, players signed via Discretionary TAM could not be traded for consideration within the league but the league is set to overhaul those limitations.

Up until now, a player signed with Discretionary TAM could be traded but not for consideration. In other words, a Discretionary TAM signing could be traded as a salary dump but nothing could be received in return. Now, the source said the league is close to announcing that Discretionary TAM signings can be traded for compensation.

As a new rule for adding players to a roster, Discretionary TAM is an additional $2.8 million per year that teams can apply to their roster outside the salary cap. This is outside of the restrictions in place for signings such as Designated Players and regular TAM, general allocation money and other such nuances to the league’s salary cap.

The introduction of Discretionary TAM this offseason was a shrewd move by MLS, allowing teams that wish to spend more to build a roster the flexibility under the salary cap to do so. This is important as the league looks to continue to grow and add more players in their prime from South America and Europe as well as keeping domestic players in MLS.

Players signed via the Discretionary TAM mechanism were unable to be traded within MLS up until now. The source tells Metro that “Discretionary TAM signings can [now] be traded following the second window after their signing.” It is a slight tweak but gives teams greater flexibility with how to construct their rosters.

This could open the door for more movement within the league, especially as teams look to upgrade their rosters this summer.

It also could prove a boon as MLS pushes for greater international success.

That teams involved in competitions such as the CONCACAF Champions League can now make a move for eligible players signed via Discretionary TAM should help stack teams ahead of this competition. MLS made great strides this offseason with two sides making the semifinals of the CONCACAF Champions League. Toronto FC lost in the finals to Chivas de Guadalajara on penalty kicks.

 

[Ulrich]

Source: MLS tweaking trade rule to Discretionary TAM signings
The rule could help bring an influx of high-profile players while promoting more movement between teams.

Discretionary Targeted Allocation Money (TAM) is a relatively new initiative by MLS, one that looks poised for a change to its implementation in the not too distant future.

Metro has learned that players signed via Discretionary TAM can now be traded, a move that MLS could announce this week, a source close to the situation says. Up until now, players signed via Discretionary TAM could not be traded for consideration within the league but the league is set to overhaul those limitations.

Up until now, a player signed with Discretionary TAM could be traded but not for consideration. In other words, a Discretionary TAM signing could be traded as a salary dump but nothing could be received in return. Now, the source said the league is close to announcing that Discretionary TAM signings can be traded for compensation.

As a new rule for adding players to a roster, Discretionary TAM is an additional $2.8 million per year that teams can apply to their roster outside the salary cap. This is outside of the restrictions in place for signings such as Designated Players and regular TAM, general allocation money and other such nuances to the league’s salary cap.

The introduction of Discretionary TAM this offseason was a shrewd move by MLS, allowing teams that wish to spend more to build a roster the flexibility under the salary cap to do so. This is important as the league looks to continue to grow and add more players in their prime from South America and Europe as well as keeping domestic players in MLS.

Players signed via the Discretionary TAM mechanism were unable to be traded within MLS up until now. The source tells Metro that “Discretionary TAM signings can [now] be traded following the second window after their signing.” It is a slight tweak but gives teams greater flexibility with how to construct their rosters.

This could open the door for more movement within the league, especially as teams look to upgrade their rosters this summer.

It also could prove a boon as MLS pushes for greater international success.

That teams involved in competitions such as the CONCACAF Champions League can now make a move for eligible players signed via Discretionary TAM should help stack teams ahead of this competition. MLS made great strides this offseason with two sides making the semifinals of the CONCACAF Champions League. Toronto FC lost in the finals to Chivas de Guadalajara on penalty kicks.

So MLS rolled out a new rule over the offseason that needed to be fundamentally revised a few months later.... That’s like subbing off a player that just subbed on.

 

[Christopher Jee]

So MLS rolled out a new rule over the offseason that needed to be fundamentally revised a few months later.... That’s like subbing off a player that just subbed on.

Still better than losing the game because you're too proud to own up to a mistake.

I'm curious what prompted this rule change. Either a signing that seems too risky to make without being able to trade them. Or a signing that was already made that feels like a mistake?

 

[LionNYC]

So MLS rolled out a new rule over the offseason that needed to be fundamentally revised a few months later.... That’s like subbing off a player that just subbed on.

Stertzer in the Open Cup?

 

[Seven]

Still better than losing the game because you're too proud to own up to a mistake.

I'm curious what prompted this rule change. Either a signing that seems too risky to make without being able to trade them. Or a signing that was already made that feels like a mistake?

Galaxy want to trade Zlatan