2018 Roster Discussion

[LionNYC]

Something that bothers me about MLS and in particular NYCFC. We don't disclose anything about these deals. How many years are each player signed? Which years are player options? Club options? TAM? GAM?

The only team that I believe that releases this is Sporting Kansas City. I mean look at this article. So much is given to fans: https://www.sportingkc.com/post/201...ises-options-11-players-ahead-2018-mls-season

 

[EganSoccerWords]

These are both fair points. I do think Chanot does provide more from an organization standpoint being in the middle over Ibby, but I think what you've both pointed out would be enough to have Ibby in the middle.

I think he would be great in the middle. Imagine how scary our backline would be with a right footed Callens.

 

[Fantazma]

Something that bothers me about MLS and in particular NYCFC. We don't disclose anything about these deals. How many years are each player signed? Which years are player options? Club options? TAM? GAM?

The only team that I believe that releases this is Sporting Kansas City. I mean look at this article. So much is given to fans: https://www.sportingkc.com/post/201...ises-options-11-players-ahead-2018-mls-season

do we even know how much GAM/ TAM each team starts with and actually has? i mean there even been cases where all of a sudden a draft pick was traded to a player and it happened months before. Or all of a sudden an international slot was sold to another team and no one even knew until an international player is signed.

i do think it must be improved, i just dont know if there are legalities tied to this ? or with players union? if player X got this and player Y says why cant he get that same type of contract with GAM/TAM etc. or just MLS just being lazy with it.

 

[ManhattanValley]

The only team that I believe that releases this is Sporting Kansas City. I mean look at this article. So much is given to fans: https://www.sportingkc.com/post/201...ises-options-11-players-ahead-2018-mls-season

Would be genuinely interested to know if this kind of thing makes a blind bit of difference to KC fans in terms of their relationship with the FO.

 

[LionNYC]

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/08/17/report-david-villas-nycfc-tenure-will-end-this-season/

This is NBC Sports dated August 2018, but when I searched the link in the Forums, nothing came up.

Here is the article they are sourcing: https://as.com/futbol/2018/08/17/internacional/1534495096_592249.html

According to a report by Spanish outlet AS, NYCFC is not planning to renew David Villa’s contract at the end of this season.
...
The report states that, at 36 years old, Villa could potentially contemplate retirement at the end of the season, having already hung up his international boots four years ago just two caps shy of the 100 mark. According to the report, NYCFC could potentially offer him a front office role, either as a coach or executive.

 

[LionNYC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1050509927746334724

 

[Ulrich]

These contract extensions are a mixed bag.... now we gotta hope the Curse of Saunders-TMac-RJ-Mata-Wallace doesn’t strike this trio.....

 

[Seven]

https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2018/08/17/report-david-villas-nycfc-tenure-will-end-this-season/

This is NBC Sports dated August 2018, but when I searched the link in the Forums, nothing came up.

Here is the article they are sourcing: https://as.com/futbol/2018/08/17/internacional/1534495096_592249.html

According to a report by Spanish outlet AS, NYCFC is not planning to renew David Villa’s contract at the end of this season.
...
The report states that, at 36 years old, Villa could potentially contemplate retirement at the end of the season, having already hung up his international boots four years ago just two caps shy of the 100 mark. According to the report, NYCFC could potentially offer him a front office role, either as a coach or executive.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1032451167555608577

He might still be retiring at the end of the year, but not sure anything has been decided yet.

And the AS article was linked on here, just not the NBC Sports one, because it really didn’t have any new information

 

[adam]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1032451167555608577

He might still be retiring at the end of the year, but not sure anything has been decided yet.

And the AS article was linked on here, just not the NBC Sports one, because it really didn’t have any new information

Glenn Crooks is an NYCFC shill. Don’t believe a word he breaths.

 

[Seven]

Glenn Crooks is an NYCFC shill. Don’t believe a word he breaths.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1030495802257494018

Others said the same thing

 

[LionNYC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1030495802257494018

Others said the same thing

They're all shills just pushing the MLS PR machine.

 

[mgarbowski]

No team in New York has more reporters in its hip pocket than NYCFC.

 

[Kjbert]

Interesting that they haven't renewed Chanot's deal

 

[Yankeedom]

Interesting that they haven't renewed Chanot's deal

Reports I read stated he was in the building, on his way to sign an extension, but someone accidentally bumped into him in the hallway. Chanot went down like a sack of potatoes, clutching the back of his head with both hands.

 

[Shwafta]

Reports I read stated he was in the building, on his way to sign an extension, but someone accidentally bumped into him in the hallway. Chanot went down like a sack of potatoes, clutching the back of his head with both hands.

I heard that he had been waiting about 78 minutes before it happened, too.

 

[EganSoccerWords]

Reports I read stated he was in the building, on his way to sign an extension, but someone accidentally bumped into him in the hallway. Chanot went down like a sack of potatoes, clutching the back of his head with both hands.

After the SJ, Ring, and Callens reups, we were up 3-0 so this makes sense

 

[Kjbert]

I’m actually a little surprised by the Johnson extension.

I guess first round draft picks are worthless now.

 

[Christopher Jee]

I’m actually a little surprised by the Johnson extension.

I guess first round draft picks are worthless now.

Because we're not putting the house on Caldwell?

 

[dummyrun]

I guess first round draft picks are worthless now.

They've always been pretty low value. Here's a quick list of guys taken in the first round of the last five drafts who I'd say are currently better than the average MLS player. I came up with 8/105, with maybe another 20 or so in competent starter range. Some of the younger guys might get there eventually, but still, you're looking at something like a 2/3 chance that a first round pick will be basically worthless.

2014 (19 picks): Steve Birnbaum
2015 (21 picks): Cyle Larin, Tim Parker, Cristian Roldan
2016 (20 picks): Jack Harrison, Keegan Rosenberry
2017 (22 picks): Lalas Abubakar, Julian Gressel
2018 (23 picks): none yet

 

[Shwafta]

They've always been pretty low value. Here's a quick list of guys taken in the first round of the last five drafts who I'd say are currently better than the average MLS player. I came up with 8/105, with maybe another 20 or so in competent starter range. Some of the younger guys might get there eventually, but still, you're looking at something like a 2/3 chance that a first round pick will be basically worthless.

2014 (19 picks): Steve Birnbaum
2015 (21 picks): Cyle Larin, Tim Parker, Cristian Roldan
2016 (20 picks): Jack Harrison, Keegan Rosenberry
2017 (22 picks): Lalas Abubakar, Julian Gressel
2018 (23 picks): none yet

Not gonna stick Danladi in there?