I thought the players get a living expense..
2019 Roster Discussion
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Agreed with all points said. The rule changes were killer since they happened literally the expansion wave. Blank disrupted because MLS loves who he is (and his money) and have no problem with him being the face of the owners in MLS (Which it should be for everything he's done down there)
The stadium. Yikes. I can go on for literally days about where CFG have gone wrong, starting before they even announced a team when it was purely speculation. De Blasio has played a major part in it all (i'd say about 60%) but CFG have shot themselves in the foot at every juncture, either with the private companies they are dealing with to try to get the land, the developers they have employed to assist with it, or the state trying to get either state land or federal endorsement to help secure land. It's been a nightmare that I don't think anyone in CFG even thought of as a possibility to this point. (Also evidenced by those leaked emails last year)
Are you sure you aren’t the Intern - new account, singing the praises, etc. That’s some interesting hearsay from CFG employees coming on the heels of a cup bouncing - typical stuff to soften the blow to the villagers as pitchforks are being sharpened. I’m just messing with you, the intern has multiple burner accounts to keep their persona darkened
That said, even if true, CFG has got a lot of room to improve regarding the narrative they’re trying to spin of NYCFCbeig a success story. We’re falling back each year compared to how the new expansion teams are approaching roster construction and stadiums.
Also, that’s kinda comical that MLS has fined NYCFC for year 1 roster issues - that was the worst constructed roster we’ve had and there were few loans that’s need a second look - Lampard being the most blatant, so maybe it’s all because of that fiasco.
Just one burner account: @NotACFGInternAre you sure you aren’t the Intern - new account, singing the praises, etc. That’s some interesting hearsay from CFG employees coming on the heels of a cup bouncing - typical stuff to soften the blow to the villagers as pitchforks are being sharpened. I’m just messing with you, the intern has multiple burner accounts to keep their persona darkened
That said, even if true, CFG has got a lot of room to improve regarding the narrative they’re trying to spin of NYCFCbeig a success story. We’re falling back each year compared to how the new expansion teams are approaching roster construction and stadiums.
Also, that’s kinda comical that MLS has fined NYCFC for year 1 roster issues - that was the worst constructed roster we’ve had and there were few loans that’s need a second look - Lampard being the most blatant, so maybe it’s all because of that fiasco.
Agreed. I also don't think they anticipated teams like ATL and LAFC coming in and having the success that they have had. I also think they overlooked the overall quality of the league as a whole and thought they could get it done with a bunch of "C" players from Europe. I honestly think we will see a large philosophy shift in the way the team is ran over the next 2 years. The way I see it playing out is they attempt to bring over a few more signings and hope that they can stay relevant. When that fails, and Dome is gone, they will bring in someone like Hackworth from Louisville and they will start going the youth route like many other teams are doing (and having success with) It's going to be a few bumpy years if they don't right the ship, that's for sure.
In that case I should fit right in then as an expert pundit like the rest of the Harvard grads here
ETA - was late on this - Word. I heard they offset the cost of living discrepancies with all kinds of tricks tho. But yeh that probably makes a difference.
I've seen D dkalev2 at more games than I've seen you at
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happy to have
Korker here, hopefully his sticks around. Intern or not
Korker here, hopefully his sticks around. Intern or not
I get a promotion next week so won't be an intern much longerhappy to have
taking over for patricoff?I get a promotion next week so won't be an intern much longer
Declined that position actually. Heard a lot of fans heckle that guy about random stuff
100% true. Great question on locality or flat rate. I don't know. I know that our guys and the LA Galaxy guys were getting about $1,500 a month. Maybe it is a flat rate.
NOTE: Just wanted to add that I don't believe the living allowances are in the CBA. I don't know if that means certain teams provide the allowances but not all do.
The allowances are by individual contract not stipulated by the CBA, but the CBA says that they are part of the salary budget charge. So it's not something where NYCFC could go crazy and pay for everyone's housing with no effect
Great, so now we have to redo the charts.
Interesting you mention by individual contract. I forget what Gerrard's housing allowance was but it was something stupid like $30k a month.
Lol, so that basically wipes out any effort to account for CPI then. Thanks for nothing.
ETA - Actually, worse than nothing, because it likely hits the cap before tax is taken out, so they need to add pre-tax dollars to make it possible for the players to actually buy what they need it for. So we'd only bother for DPs anyway. Which is another kick in the nuts for equality and team morale.
ETA - although I guess that would happen under regular government rules anyway I think, so nevermind.
Just one burner account: @NotACFGIntern
Agreed. I also don't think they anticipated teams like ATL and LAFC coming in and having the success that they have had. I also think they overlooked the overall quality of the league as a whole and thought they could get it done with a bunch of "C" players from Europe. I honestly think we will see a large philosophy shift in the way the team is ran over the next 2 years. The way I see it playing out is they attempt to bring over a few more signings and hope that they can stay relevant. When that fails, and Dome is gone, they will bring in someone like Hackworth from Louisville and they will start going the youth route like many other teams are doing (and having success with) It's going to be a few bumpy years if they don't right the ship, that's for sure.
There aren't many ways to gain a competitive advantage in MLS, and a good academy is a big one - maybe the biggest. I have faith that the Club really want a top notch academy. I just wish they understood how important it is to have it producing from the start.
Atlanta already has academy players producing on the roster. Meanwhile, CFG is taking the same slow, deliberate approach to the academy that it is to everything else (USL team, Stadium, etc.). It's an advantage we should have that we don't, at least not yet.
The issue isn't with the academy. Our academies are probably the most successful things going to be honest. The issue is with the lack of a USL team. We have no clear cut pipeline to the 1st team. Goes Academies - Floating in no mans land - pray *insert player* makes 1st team. If we had a USL team, the youth part of it would take care of itself.
I know the Rough Riders on LI are applying for USL status and are working on trying to get a stadium, so I wonder if they are in a wait and see approach with them. If not, we probably won't get a USL team until we have our own stadium so that the USL team can play out of it as well. It's amazing how with one issue solved (the stadium), it can fix a lot of our other issues.
Rough Riders are technically already USL they are just in the third tier (division)
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