Bless Their Hearts (RBNJ Talk Here)

This take is something (guy lives in Jersey and is a RBNJ fan, enough said). Apparently it’s Garber’s fault for starting NYCFC as the reason why RBNJ is not supported enough and “diluting the product” in the NYC metro area.

All of the below are true IMO:

New York is a difficult market for MLS.
MetroStars never solved it.
Red Bull hasn’t solved it.
MLS handicapped itself bringing in two sports conglomerates whose focus is elsewhere.
There might not be better alternative local ownership options.
If there were solid local ownership they might have a better chance at solving it but that’s not automatic.
CFG hasn’t solved it.
CFG at least seems to care more about winning here than RB does, but that’s not enough.
New York might not be a two team soccer market.
If NY were to have one team it can't play in a spot that cannot be conveniently reached from Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx, and that matters more than the political jurisdiction.
The team in Harrison would probably improve the chances for itself, NYCFC and MLS if it rebranded as New Jersey, but the foreign sports conglomerate has no interest in owning a New Jersey branded team. But even if they did, they still wouldn't solve NYC.
 
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All of the below are true IMO:

New York is a difficult market for MLS.
MetroStars never solved it.
Red Bull hasn’t solved it.
MLS handicapped itself bringing in two sports conglomerates whose focus is elsewhere.
There might not be better alternative local ownership options.
If there were solid local ownership they might have a better chance at solving it but that’s not automatic.
CFG hasn’t solved it.
CFG at least seems to care more about winning here than RB does, but that’s not enough.
New York might not be a two team soccer market.
If NY were to have one team it can't play in a spot that cannot be conveniently reached from Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx, and that matters more than the political jurisdiction.
The team in Harrison would probably improve the chances for itself, NYCFC and MLS if it rebranded as New Jersey, but the foreign sports conglomerate has no interest in owning a New Jersey branded team. But even if they did, they still wouldn't solve NYC.

I am really interested to see what our attendance looks like once the weather is nice. I definitely feel like I'm seeing more NYCFC buzz in the area -- lots more shirts and hats etc, so if that means we'll have better attendance this season, I think that may answer some of these questions for NYCFC.
 
Fishkin is a RBNJ OG who yeah, has seen a lot of playoff disappointment, and usually isn’t a whiner.

This whole “NYCFC’s championship isn’t legit, or they didn’t play teams at full strength because of rest or Covid or whatever” is bunk. Do you know what counteracts this?

THEY WON THREE, YES THREE of their playoff games on the road. Do you know how hard it is to consistently win on the road in MLS, not even considering that it’s even harder to do in the playoffs?

this is tired. Let it go.
 
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If NYCFC wins CCL without facing Liga MX teams, its because Liga MX teams wasnt good enough to go through isnt it?

exactly.

by saying "if NYCFC wins CCL without facing LigaMX teams so it's not a true CCL win" they are essentially saying Seattle, Montreal, Revs got through because they were purely lucky
 
If NYCFC wins CCL without facing Liga MX teams, its because Liga MX teams wasnt good enough to go through isnt it?

No, it's because of plastic oil money /s
 


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