Dave Martinez editorial on not just the NYCFC effect but also the MLS effect. Pulling no punches...
http://www.empireofsoccer.com/lampardgate-where-york-31195/
http://www.empireofsoccer.com/lampardgate-where-york-31195/
Mcfc Confirms Lampard Staying In Manchester For The Season
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You know I hate when websites put together these mock letters. There is always someone stupid enough to believe it's real.
My word that was a very long read. Hate, vitriol, resignations, resentment, explanations and everything.
I get it though.
However
I said this on June 22nd here on this forum.
"I have said this I don't know how many times: NYCFC is its own club in its own right, but MCFC will pop on over should NYCFC find an exceptional talent. Other than that, it ain't but a thing."
And this on April 18th.
"I am sorry (and you will hate this), but the foreseeable future NYCFC is nothing but City's whore - it sounds terrible, but that is what it is. NYCFC will grow and become its own entity, but for the next few years it will be the former."
You understand now?
It doesn't make it any easier for you guys, but I did warn you.
I get it though.
However
I said this on June 22nd here on this forum.
"I have said this I don't know how many times: NYCFC is its own club in its own right, but MCFC will pop on over should NYCFC find an exceptional talent. Other than that, it ain't but a thing."
And this on April 18th.
"I am sorry (and you will hate this), but the foreseeable future NYCFC is nothing but City's whore - it sounds terrible, but that is what it is. NYCFC will grow and become its own entity, but for the next few years it will be the former."
You understand now?
It doesn't make it any easier for you guys, but I did warn you.
Maybe but it is the least that the NEED to say. They are going to need to do a lot of work cause this is a colossal fuck up.
Hudson River Blue have done an extensive article reviewing why this is not the case (Did New York City mischaracterize Lampard's contract?). As reviewed there, BBC's David Ornstein is the primary writer, so far as I am aware, who broke the news that it "was not loan but season-long contract signed as free agent with break clause scheduled to end his stay at midnight 31 Dec." But Ornstein hasn't revealed his source, and there's nothing official from NYCFC, MLS or anyone else. But Sports Illustrated's Grant Wahl quotes an anonymous NYCFC source as saying the "contract is owned by Man City & isn't a loan."
How do we know? Easy, per HRB:
If Ornstein and Wahl are correct - and I see no reason why they or the BBC and SI would knowingly report something false - then both New York City and Manchester City have been mischaracterizing the nature of Frank Lampard's contract with the club from the beginning. There's one simple, easy way to resolve this confusion:
Release the contract.
That's it. Let everyone know what the deal is. Post the contract on New York City's site. Nothing short of that resolves questions.
Release the contract.
That's it. Let everyone know what the deal is. Post the contract on New York City's site. Nothing short of that resolves questions.
Agreed, release the contract. Tear the band aid off and move on and don't let this nonsense happen again. No one looks good in this and obviously pissing the fans off makes this even worse.
Start working NOW to make things better and get us on track for the first kick.
Start working NOW to make things better and get us on track for the first kick.
While those reports "we never had him" sting and hurt, on the official website -> http://www.nycfc.com/players/frank-lampard it still proclaims "Acquired: Signed on a free transfer to New York City FC on July 24, 2014". If this was really just a fraudulent lie to lure in people for season tickets, we should flood the Better Business Bureau with complaints about this! -> https://www.bbb.org/consumer-complaints/file-a-complaint/get-started
my letter to the FO
To whom it may concern,
When this club was announced, I couldn't have been happier. Finally, a chance to watch world class soccer in my city. I jumped at the chance to buy season tickets (two to be exact) to watch the inaugural season in Yankee Stadium. I am writing to you today to voice my displeasure at the promise of transparency to MCFC and the Frank Lampard situation.
Now, admittedly, I didn't buy season tickets for NYCFC SOLELY for Frank Lampard, I bought it on the notion (one that has been said numerous times from management and executives) that NYCFC was an independent club, a team who wasn't a marketing gimmick or a placeholder to spread the CFG brand. This is NOT the case. The jersey release was one thing, maybe it was foreshadowing to the bigger picture, a way for the club to subtly show what we truly were/are, a feeder club. The way this Frank Lampard situation was conducted was totally backwards and ridiculous. Selling season tickets on the idea that Frank would be in Yankee Stadium on March 15th ready to go for the first ever home game, only to have the rug pulled from under us because “big brother” MCFC needs him more…what a joke.
When I signed on to support this club, I thought it would be different from RBNY. However, in the past 5 months, I have been disappointed and misled more than I EVER have with any team. The trust and relationship between club and the fans is GONE. It has been made perfectly clear to the entire league that we are a pawn in CFG’s game, with MCFC being the king.
My enthusiasm for the club is now tempered and my belief and support of the “transparency” of the management and executives including CFG, NYCFC, MCFC etc. is now shattered. Think about the fans here for one second (which is apparently one more second than anyone at CFG or MCFC did)…NYCFC has become the laughingstock of the league. People have been saying we were a feeder club to MCFC from the start, and this Lampard situation proves exactly that. Opposing fans will be RUTHLESS towards ANY and ALL fans of this club especially the Third Rail, whose unwavering support is extremely important for the club on the field. The amount of ammo MCFC and CFG provided to opposing fans is something I never though could happen in a million years. Even when the Lampard speculation began I didn't think ONCE that he wouldn't be here for game one….the skeptics were proved right. We were lied to. Ferran Soriano told fans (myself included) at Legends in NYC that NYCFC was not a branding experiment and that the club would NOT play second fiddle to MCFC, and yet here we are.
That’s it.
DiRoma
PS. Please fire whoever runs the @NYCFC twitter, posting Lampard stats and stuff right after it was announced that he wouldn't be here is not only ignorant but putting salt in the wounds of all NYCFC fans and season ticket holders.
To whom it may concern,
When this club was announced, I couldn't have been happier. Finally, a chance to watch world class soccer in my city. I jumped at the chance to buy season tickets (two to be exact) to watch the inaugural season in Yankee Stadium. I am writing to you today to voice my displeasure at the promise of transparency to MCFC and the Frank Lampard situation.
Now, admittedly, I didn't buy season tickets for NYCFC SOLELY for Frank Lampard, I bought it on the notion (one that has been said numerous times from management and executives) that NYCFC was an independent club, a team who wasn't a marketing gimmick or a placeholder to spread the CFG brand. This is NOT the case. The jersey release was one thing, maybe it was foreshadowing to the bigger picture, a way for the club to subtly show what we truly were/are, a feeder club. The way this Frank Lampard situation was conducted was totally backwards and ridiculous. Selling season tickets on the idea that Frank would be in Yankee Stadium on March 15th ready to go for the first ever home game, only to have the rug pulled from under us because “big brother” MCFC needs him more…what a joke.
When I signed on to support this club, I thought it would be different from RBNY. However, in the past 5 months, I have been disappointed and misled more than I EVER have with any team. The trust and relationship between club and the fans is GONE. It has been made perfectly clear to the entire league that we are a pawn in CFG’s game, with MCFC being the king.
My enthusiasm for the club is now tempered and my belief and support of the “transparency” of the management and executives including CFG, NYCFC, MCFC etc. is now shattered. Think about the fans here for one second (which is apparently one more second than anyone at CFG or MCFC did)…NYCFC has become the laughingstock of the league. People have been saying we were a feeder club to MCFC from the start, and this Lampard situation proves exactly that. Opposing fans will be RUTHLESS towards ANY and ALL fans of this club especially the Third Rail, whose unwavering support is extremely important for the club on the field. The amount of ammo MCFC and CFG provided to opposing fans is something I never though could happen in a million years. Even when the Lampard speculation began I didn't think ONCE that he wouldn't be here for game one….the skeptics were proved right. We were lied to. Ferran Soriano told fans (myself included) at Legends in NYC that NYCFC was not a branding experiment and that the club would NOT play second fiddle to MCFC, and yet here we are.
That’s it.
DiRoma
PS. Please fire whoever runs the @NYCFC twitter, posting Lampard stats and stuff right after it was announced that he wouldn't be here is not only ignorant but putting salt in the wounds of all NYCFC fans and season ticket holders.
Dude lets see what develops from the club before going off the deep end like that.
i forgot to include the sources. The way you said it was just so beautiful. Its in the bibliography
how do you think I managed to graduate ??so plagiarism is cool at Siena? I'll let my kid know
Washington Post is reporting that NYCFC purchased Lampard's MLS rights from LA Galaxy. Wow. Just wow.
This is the way it has to be until MLS gets much bigger and pays much higher salaries. You talk about MCFC taking your talent. But that would happen anyway. Any player worth his salt plays in Europe until he is no longer good enough. The difference is, it wouldn't be City buying that exceptional talent. And City will at least give you something in return, like youth players on loan, who are superior to what would normally be available.
The alternative was to get some investor interested in doing this on the cheap. No real stadium prospects, no big money players (not David Villa that's for sure), and no worldwide talent network.
This is going to work out. Lampard staying or going will have no impact whatsoever on the long-term success of NYCFC. If he doesn't come, you'll get someone else similarly exciting.
As in used precious allocation money that is tied to the salary cap? Say it ain't so.
That's what I assume but they provide no other info in their tweet.
After days of reading about the Lampard deal, I say screw it, let MCFC have him, apparently he isn't putting up a fight himself to come back to NY, so do we want a player like that? Use the money for a younger better player!!
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