MLS Cup Playoffs 2016
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The refs are letting Jozy chuck defenders to the ground with impunity. It's a joke.
And Bradley has Will johnson in there now, too.
And Twellman is creaming himself to credit them. This shit shouldn't be allowed and all he can do is blow Bradley and Jozy.
Holden is so much better than Twellman. Why couldn't Twellman take his knee injuries, too? He doesn't need them to function since he never climbs off them.
And Bradley has Will johnson in there now, too.
And Twellman is creaming himself to credit them. This shit shouldn't be allowed and all he can do is blow Bradley and Jozy.
Holden is so much better than Twellman. Why couldn't Twellman take his knee injuries, too? He doesn't need them to function since he never climbs off them.
Sonuvabitch. Is Twellman stealing my fucking posts for his analysis?
Literally just brings up how Vanney won't be making the dumbass mistake of Bradley alone at DM again.
You guys think I post this shit for fun. Well, I do. But it's fucking solid science, my friends. Look what I said at the beginning.
Literally just brings up how Vanney won't be making the dumbass mistake of Bradley alone at DM again.
You guys think I post this shit for fun. Well, I do. But it's fucking solid science, my friends. Look what I said at the beginning.
Some general thoughts/suspicions I've had throughout the year have been crystallized to me while watching these playoffs:
We were never real contenders in this competition. We lack quality at far too many positions.
We did better than we should have in the regular season, thanks to gallant efforts from our DP players and occasional flukes from other guys.
We were never real contenders in this competition. We lack quality at far too many positions.
We did better than we should have in the regular season, thanks to gallant efforts from our DP players and occasional flukes from other guys.
Villa's 23 goals, Pirlo's 11 assists, Lampard's run of 12 goals, and upsurge by McNamara, Harrison, Matarrita, and Iraola at times throughout the season, as well as some miracle defensive games led us to the playoffs.
Think we got three points in Portland because of a wild game by Saunders and Hernandez (way above average), a world class assist by RJ and goal by McNamara.
Definitely played above our mean but came crashing down in the playoffs. Need to raise the consistency of talent throughout the season.
And it starts in goals. EIRIK!!!!!!
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FIFY. When our players were on, we could compete with these teams. But we couldn't depend on a strong team performance on any given day.
That's funny. Because the first 3 months of the season this whole forum was complaining that our record under-represented our performance.
I'm not sure how different that is, actually.
We had the 7th best GD in the league (+5) but finished 4th in points which suggests our results outran our performance but not by an alarming amount. By GD we were a midlevel playoff team, 4th best in the East.
We did not get to a positive GD that stayed positive until September 23 in Game 31.
If you drop our worst and best games the GD goes up to +8.
If you exclude RB our GD against the rest of the league was +13.
If you exclude our last 3 wins against teams whose seasons were over (CHI, HOU and CLB) our GD was -3.
Our record in close games (+1,0,-1) where a single flukey play can most affect the outcome was 7-4-9 for 1.5 PPG which was slightly worse than the season overall and probably not too significant.
I would expect our Home record to be better next year while our Away record slips. Neither is guaranteed but the early Home record was terrible due to a combination of flukes and a slow adjustment to Vieira's system. The first half Away record included a streak of 5 wins in 7 games followed by 1 win in the last 7. Looking at history teams with excellent Away records in MLS revert to the mean more than half the time the following year. The direction in which those 2 likely reversions offset each other will have a large effect on next year's performance.
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All noted. But here's what I don't think your numbers, or any numbers, can tell us: how much of our success was "peak performance", either due to non-consistent standout plays/players or just our team performing closer to 100% than the competition. Now, those aren't necessarily bad things, but I think they played a very significant role if we look at how much we "dipped" in "big games". Perhaps the reason would be that the actual contenders have "more in the tank" to turn on when the games actually matter.
Now, I don't know precisely what any of that means for us going forward, other than we need to improve significantly before we really have a chance at winning MLS Cup. When I look at the rosters of teams left in the competition on a slot-by-slot basis, I just see us lacking in more than a couple of places.
So happy I made that trip as well haha. Portland was an amazing city too.good memories seeing that live....will cherish those memories forever
I think we're addressing the same issue and reaching the same conclusions using different metrics and data. I think we both agree the team's record made it look better than it was. It was still a good team, but not very good and not likely to compete at the very top level despite finishing Top 4 in the overall standings. You're basing it on your analysis of the team's quality after watching the games and mine is based on comparing the W-L-D/Points record against secondary indicia that don't match up.
If our roster does not improve at multiple spots I expect the team will do worse in the regular season next year, but still make the playoffs.
so what you're saying is we're a lock for the Eastern Conference Final? :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
Good to see you posting again, sir!
