Nycfc V Cosmos Postgame & Motm
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I wish fans would stop calling for Kreis to be fired. It just sounds foolish.
We have the chance to start a truly great franchise. And a huge step in that direction is stability.
Let's be the Spurs ( NBA ) and not the Browns ( NFL ) .
We have the chance to start a truly great franchise. And a huge step in that direction is stability.
Let's be the Spurs ( NBA ) and not the Browns ( NFL ) .
It's not about ignoring the fact that penalties are in the realm of possibility. Of course they are.
It's that penalties are an absolute lottery. And considering the fact that we were getting shelled by the Cosmos attack, there's zero guarantee that we would have even made it to penalties given extra time.
So you do literally everything in your power to lock this thing up in 90 minutes. That's the right move.
I'm sorry, but the Cosmos are just not a bad team. They've got so, so much more talent than we do at this stage. Saying that they "wouldn't win two games" isn't just misguided - it's laughable.
Completely agree with this. Kreis built a powerhouse in f*cking salt lake city, Utah. Can't wait to see what he builds here with money and an attractive city
Cosmos beat Red Bull last year, pretty hard thumping too. Guess what, no one but Cosmos fans cared. No one cares today.
And no one but them will care tomorrow. Nycfc is a new team that's still finding its feet. They have other fish to fry not minnows like the NASL.
Also it could be worse. MLS Cup runner ups NE Revs were hosting yesterday and lost to a brand new, Rapids loanee USL Divsion 3 team. Ouch.
And no one but them will care tomorrow. Nycfc is a new team that's still finding its feet. They have other fish to fry not minnows like the NASL.
Also it could be worse. MLS Cup runner ups NE Revs were hosting yesterday and lost to a brand new, Rapids loanee USL Divsion 3 team. Ouch.
I agree it doesn't matter, but I was really hoping to make an exciting run for the cup. Especially with reinforcements arriving.
how many chances do you get to see a penalty shootout live? it felt good
I just read through a bunch of pages, so this is a general response to an argument I've seen crop up in a number of posts.
"You never plan for a game to go to penalties when you're up 2-0"
That's pretty true, you'd have to be pretty defeatist to do that.
"You never plan for penalties when you're up 2-1 in the 86th minute" (that one wasdoctorhoosier)
Well you damn well should be when you have already given up a late goal and they've done nothing but press dangerously since then. I was planning for penalties sitting at home. Cosmos wanted this game, we have a history of giving up late goals, we were absorbing a lot of attacks late, our defense was shit by that point (thanks in part to swapping out half the backline for weaker players, and don't give me that we don't have the depth--you can't have it both ways, either we lack depth and had shit subs so Kreis should have been prepared or they were solid choices, which clearly they were not). The list goes on and on, but the point is that if you couldn't see a very real possibility of this going all the way to penalties by the 80th minute you should probably get your eyes checked.
What's that old saying...
A 2 goal lead in football is the most dangerous lead to have.
First off stop editing your old posts and adding to them. It makes it look like I ignored what you wrote.
Second why do you have this obsession with the 86th minute? We made our defensive reshuffle before then and conceded our first goal by then. The decisions and fuckups by Kreis happened before the 86th minute.
Its not a cliche when you have no quality defensive players on the bench. How many times do I have to say this. If the back 4 was doing there job and there was no injuries and there was no quality to replace them on the bench WHY REPLACE THEM? They didnt concede a goal until wingert and KWS came on.
Challenges handed to him??? Its the fucking cosmos. They play on a womans lacrosse team field at a overpriced college on LI. Give me a break.
Editing posts is an effort to avoid making every two posts on the thread. I'm not doing it to spite you, dude - it's to try and keep the forum uncluttered.
"The fucking Cosmos" were the favorites in that match for good reason. Don't be blinded by their NASL tag. They are the better and more talented team right now, and it's partially due to the brutal restrictions the club has building this roster. Those are the challenges I was talking about - you can't build depth in six months in MLS. You only get your depth players from the expansion draft, which, as I mentioned earlier, is filled with mostly cast-offs.
The Cosmos are a money team. They've built over time via smart player acquisitions, and have a very strong system. They ran roughshod over the NASL this year. You're right that the stadium sucks, but that's a really good team with attacking talent that would start for most MLS clubs. They have seven or eight players who would start for us every game.
Wingert is a better defensive player at this stage than RJ Allen. Please don't kid yourself - he's not that bad. The Cosmos, though, have absolutely fantastic attacking talent on that side of the field. Taking RJ Allen off when trying to protect a lead is not a bad move.
I don't mind the move to take Hernandez off as much as many of you do. I get why it was made, and I'm okay with it. Wingert and KWS are professional players who should be capable of protecting a two goal lead. It's easy to second guess, but considering time and situation, it's a move I would have made as well.
Then you and Kreis are in uncommon company, because it is very rare to sub off one of your central defenders.
Gotta give credit where it's due, too, the Cosmos crossed the ball better than any team I've watched in the MLS this season. Great corners, too.
Adding wingert means you have to add KWS. RJ Allen might be bad but he got an assist last night and was doing his job. I would much rather keep RJ Allen on when we are 2 up instead of having to redo the whole backline and waste all our subs just to make sure Wingert gets in position for his birthday.
Ive said before the Cosmos are a good team and MLS quality to a degree. I got shit on on these forums for it. But enough with the Kreis victim card. This wasnt some "Challenge" this was still easily winnable. Kreis played a decent starting lineup but his decisions in the game were atrocious.
It also felt like that was all they were doing - cross after cross after cross - felt like the first Good Friday
I am a Kreis supporter but agree with hoosier that putting Wingert in for Allen would have improved our defense in the last few minutes of the 2-1 game, not weakened it. Its time to move Wingert out of the center and back to the wing where he has played most of his career. Facey/Hernandez are the best central defense pairing we have. I have been watching a fair amount of MLS this year and I think the Cosmos looked pretty good (and we are far from the worst team in the league despite our record). They would have a losing record, but wouldn't be all alone in the basement in MLS this season.
The media is trying to real hard to hype up last night lol. I can imagine the spin Soccer morning will spout about it
Seriously. Sent out half of the regular starters, a guy who's never started in goal against an MLS side, no Villa, shitty lighting, TURF, on the road, but when you're in the NASL, you take what you can get.
Kreis seems unfamiliar with "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
He's more partial to "If it's broke, take a long fucking time to fix it".
He's more partial to "If it's broke, take a long fucking time to fix it".
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