If he were a Met, the bat would have slipped out of his hands and killed a fan in section 126.
Nycfc V Redbulls Postmatch
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Love that the microphone cord is sky blue. It's the little touches that make all the difference.
Still waiting for a reason from Kreis that Poku didn't start. You can't tell me he has 5 midfielders better than Poku. Apparently, he thinks he does.
Which makes me worry we will see a 4-2-3-1 with Ned Grabavoy playing LM starting in late July. I might run on the field and tackle Ned if that happens. Super great guy - washed up player.
Which makes me worry we will see a 4-2-3-1 with Ned Grabavoy playing LM starting in late July. I might run on the field and tackle Ned if that happens. Super great guy - washed up player.
Only four points out of the playoff picture with major issues on this team addressed during the transfer window.
I REALLY want to see Calle playing LM.
Even for the short time we saw him yesterday you saw a player VERY comfortable with the ball at this feet and making some good runs. For someone who hasn't been involved in a game in over a month I was happy.
His natural position is LM.
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You may want to invest in a tackling dummy and start practicing because unfortunately if Grabavoy is healthy come late July then I think that you will see exactly that formation. AJ sitting next to Pirlo, Lampard at CAM, Mix on the right, Grabavoy on the left and Villa up top alone. T-Mac and Ballouchy will join Poku on the bench. And then my head will explode.
And a lot of those guys probably know they won't be around for much longer...
Something i noticed in the second half was that when we were pushing forward on a wing, there was only Villa in the box with their 4, Mix just out side in the middle marked up, and maybe someone on the other wing. How the hell can we send a cross in to 1 player?
On the flip side, when NJ was pushing in, they usually had 6 at the edge of the box or inside against our back 4.
On the flip side, when NJ was pushing in, they usually had 6 at the edge of the box or inside against our back 4.
My father who I've taken to a few games (not this one, also the tickets are in my name) says he wanted to go to a Red Bulls game and see what it's like there. I'm beginning to think I'm adopted.
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It's been a day and the dust has settled a bit but I think we need to be a bit more realistic about where we stand. Making the playoffs will be a huge accomplishment and we still have plenty of time to make that happen. As
doctorhoosier stated, we will not be fielding a truly competitive team for several years. Yes, this was a derby and a tough one to swallow but all is not lost. We are still in the hunt for a playoff spot and that is the ONLY legitimate goal this season. The last couple of years have seen the Red Bulls get very close to an MLS cup and that doesn't happen overnight.
The best thing we can hope for, as fans, is that their 20+ years of ineptitude will continue and that we will win the cup before they do. Nobody will remember this loss or this season WHEN that happens.
doctorhoosier stated, we will not be fielding a truly competitive team for several years. Yes, this was a derby and a tough one to swallow but all is not lost. We are still in the hunt for a playoff spot and that is the ONLY legitimate goal this season. The last couple of years have seen the Red Bulls get very close to an MLS cup and that doesn't happen overnight. The best thing we can hope for, as fans, is that their 20+ years of ineptitude will continue and that we will win the cup before they do. Nobody will remember this loss or this season WHEN that happens.
I am glad you are posting here. Yes I did notice although one of our forum member PeteDahhSneak , Says otherwise. I really think It was horrible.
I sit right in front of the the Supporter Section and all the noise from the first half stopped after the first RB goal. By the 3rd goal I could clear hear the RB supporters from ACROSS the field chanting clearly. For all the good that the fans did throughout last week (ESB lighting, tifo, banter - all outstanding) it was a collective failure in that second half.
I think once we go down a goal all the air gets sucked out of YS. Like we are expecting to lose. I have experienced this in other games, so it was not just a Sunday thing. So are we developing a loser's mentality?
Some of it is the way the team just looks outclassed at time. But I also think the supporters have to pick it up and get better organized. Or maybe it just that NYCFC almost never is facing the goal on the supporter side in the second half (hard to cheer the action on the other side). It's almost the halfway point in the season and all parties have to look at what needs to be done to improve.
I know we like to debate the players and where they stand in MLS, but someone should ask just good our supporter groups are. I am not trying to trash anyone, but after a loss like that it might be time for self-reflection.
Yea don't you dare question the SGs, they don't like criticism.
Fixed that for you. The rest of us are pretty reasonable and less likely to fire back with "What have you ever done for the team?"
This is a good point. We play away from the supporters in the second half a lot. Like way more often than a 50/50 coin toss should have us playing that way. It's almost like the FO wants to be playing that way in the second half, but why? I mean we could have the team play towards their loudest support during the second half, or we can have them play toward the pricy seats... but why would they want that?
To be fair, the team spent most of the 2nd half playing in their own half in front of the supporters and they allowed 3 goals. Supporters are only good at helping the team score, not defend apparently. [sarcasm; please don't kill me! Haha]
In all seriousness, most teams attack towards their supporters in the 2nd half. No idea why it doesn't happen more with NYCFC.
In all seriousness, most teams attack towards their supporters in the 2nd half. No idea why it doesn't happen more with NYCFC.
TR member here. We had a ton of noobs in 236 and 237 who stood arms crossed, silent, confused, whatever you want to call it, after RBs tied, and then continued the onslaught. Ask any of the hardcore supporters any question you like Sunday night, yesterday, and even a bit today, and the response would sound like it was coming from a chain smoker. We really did try our damn best to rally folks to sing and get back into things, but we simply had large numbers of looky loos infiltrating the sections Sunday who had no interest in helping the cause. These fuck faces even left before the match was fully over. It is not a complete excuse of course, as maybe other teams deal with this re-sale of member tickets to strangers to soccer/NYCFC during big matches (or not, maybe their SGs really clamp down on this?), but it was a significant contributing factor, and embarrassing to the rest of us who turn up game in game out. Organization is definitely still a work in progress. Mistakes and missteps will continue to be made for sure. I'm sorry spectators outside of 236-238 (235, that's another story, no SG/SCs set up shop there) don't think we are doing a good enough job trying to rally for the team. That just means TR and all the SG/SCs together have to just keep chopping wood and work to make it better, and I am confident we can.
Re: the TIFO, I don't think people outside of the SGs/SCs (TR, HOO, BBSC, NY12, et al) realize how strict YS is with what we can do, the size limits, the lack of being able to cover the aisles even for a few seconds, and the lack of advance notice supporters can be given for certain displays - this was partly why the color panels didn't work. I heard they had to be smuggled in (YS wouldn't allow them to be an 'official' display), so affects both size and ability to get people behind it re: being given notice. We also have no pulley system, no dedicated TIFO space (each time we do something, have to scramble to find places to paint it), cant use fixed props (could be used as weapons) and I am sure much less $ than TA, ECS, etc. to do elaborate shit. The people who painted this TIFO, planned it, organized it, put in like 40+ hrs, pulling all nighters, in order to get this out in time. The people who painted the jersey boy figures (Sasha, BWP, Robles, Dax) are artists IMO. They were amazing. So given what we have to work with, this was a damn good display, right?
Oh, and you wont hear a "What have you done for the team?" from me, as long as your criticism is constructive. So again, SG member, TR member, welcoming constructive criticism, trying to debunk the stereotype stated above that TR/SG members are unreasonable assholes all the time. I definitely have my moments of being an asshole, but usually it comes with an apology 5 min later.
Re: the TIFO, I don't think people outside of the SGs/SCs (TR, HOO, BBSC, NY12, et al) realize how strict YS is with what we can do, the size limits, the lack of being able to cover the aisles even for a few seconds, and the lack of advance notice supporters can be given for certain displays - this was partly why the color panels didn't work. I heard they had to be smuggled in (YS wouldn't allow them to be an 'official' display), so affects both size and ability to get people behind it re: being given notice. We also have no pulley system, no dedicated TIFO space (each time we do something, have to scramble to find places to paint it), cant use fixed props (could be used as weapons) and I am sure much less $ than TA, ECS, etc. to do elaborate shit. The people who painted this TIFO, planned it, organized it, put in like 40+ hrs, pulling all nighters, in order to get this out in time. The people who painted the jersey boy figures (Sasha, BWP, Robles, Dax) are artists IMO. They were amazing. So given what we have to work with, this was a damn good display, right?
Oh, and you wont hear a "What have you done for the team?" from me, as long as your criticism is constructive. So again, SG member, TR member, welcoming constructive criticism, trying to debunk the stereotype stated above that TR/SG members are unreasonable assholes all the time. I definitely have my moments of being an asshole, but usually it comes with an apology 5 min later.
This is a problem world over . I don't want to sound condescending but as I presume most of you are long time football supporters how do you not realize that away fans tend to be more fanatical and louder than home crowds? Go on a Man City or United or Arsenal etc. forum and I'm sure you will find threads of people complaining that the stadium is too quiet the away supporters were louder etc. Even in a local derby most of the people who bother to come to the away stadium are coming as part of an organised group. The home stadium, especially when we're new, and when we're in a market like New York, and out going to be bringing in the marquee name players we are is going to attract tons of casual fans.
I don't have a season ticket but I've been to five matches so far. Only this last one where I sat directly below the 3rd rail in 135 were people around me standing, singing, chanting etc. I've been near families at times but also tourists. One game I was next to a bunch of guys with thick southern accents and another the guys in front of me were Brits. While it's possible in New York's melting pot both groups could be transplants living in NY and big NYCFC fans I got the impression they were tourists just checking out a soccer match while on vacation because it was easy to get to and we have Villa. We have to keep that in mind while having a stadium in NY and with good public transport is convenient for tourists in one of the most visited city's in the world and I'm sure once we have Lamps and Pirlo those casual one time ticket buyers will only increase. There are drawbacks to it but I think it's better than a half empty stadium.
I don't have a season ticket but I've been to five matches so far. Only this last one where I sat directly below the 3rd rail in 135 were people around me standing, singing, chanting etc. I've been near families at times but also tourists. One game I was next to a bunch of guys with thick southern accents and another the guys in front of me were Brits. While it's possible in New York's melting pot both groups could be transplants living in NY and big NYCFC fans I got the impression they were tourists just checking out a soccer match while on vacation because it was easy to get to and we have Villa. We have to keep that in mind while having a stadium in NY and with good public transport is convenient for tourists in one of the most visited city's in the world and I'm sure once we have Lamps and Pirlo those casual one time ticket buyers will only increase. There are drawbacks to it but I think it's better than a half empty stadium.
Not sure there is much you can do about the resale issue. I'm not in any SG but I sit near the supporters section and I think everyone has done a good job for how young the team is. The next step I would personally like to see is the development of some type of call and repeat chants where the supporters section does something and the rest of the stadium answers. It's harder since we are in a baseball stadium and it will take time for everyone to catch on but I still think it could work. Right now it's like the supporters section does their thing and the rest of a stadium is separate. Anyway we can get everyone in the stadium chanting/signing the same thing even a few times a game would be great. At least 85% of the people in the stadium were NYCFC fans if we can get even half of them chanting the same thing no one will hear a word the away teams supporters are saying even if there are as many as RB had on Sunday.
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