Stadium Discussion

Where Do You Want The Stadium?

  • Manhattan

    Votes: 54 17.8%
  • Queens

    Votes: 87 28.6%
  • Brooklyn

    Votes: 16 5.3%
  • Staten Island

    Votes: 6 2.0%
  • Westchester

    Votes: 18 5.9%
  • The Bronx

    Votes: 110 36.2%
  • Long Island

    Votes: 5 1.6%
  • Dual-Boroughs

    Votes: 3 1.0%
  • Etihad Island

    Votes: 5 1.6%

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AirBNB stock anyone?
They're clamping down on that as well, I believe. I don't know how they expect large numbers of tourists to pay the inflated rates these restrictions will cause.
By the way, the hotel rule is not done and could be scuttled before the meeting early next year. But expectations are it will pass.
 

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I couldn't care less if a tourist has to pay more, if they can't afford and don't come, the hotels will have to lower their rates. If Hotels are doing so bad because of the pandemic, building more hotels doesn't really help the hotels we already have.

The bigger issue for people that actually live in New York is that many unscrupulous landlords are converting apartments into hotels decreasing the supply of housing that drives up the cost of living for everyone. Extra oversight to prevent this would be very beneficial.
 
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I couldn't care less if a tourist has to pay more, if they can't afford and don't come, the hotels will have to lower their rates. If Hotels are doing so bad because of the pandemic, building more hotels doesn't really help the hotels we already have.

The bigger issue for people that actually live in New York is that many unscrupulous landlords are converting apartments into hotels decreasing the supply of housing that drives up the cost of living for everyone. Extra oversight to prevent this would be very beneficial.
A tourist would have to pay more because of fewer rooms. The rooms will fill at higher rates, not creating a need to lower them. The less affluent tourists will not be able to come. Less tourists hits lots of families in the city who need them. So....you should care more about tourists ability to come to the city. Thats before you even get to business conventions and the like. Most organizers will look elsewhere for lower costs and safer communities like in Florida, Texas etc.

Not that much of this matters, most people I know in New England who would normally make some trips to the city are saying they aren't going back anytime soon due to the city's encouragement of crime. The city has some dark days ahead.
 
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A tourist would have to pay more because of fewer rooms. The rooms will fill at higher rates, not creating a need to lower them. The less affluent tourists will not be able to come. Less tourists hits lots of families in the city who need them. So....you should care more about tourists ability to come to the city. Thats before you even get to business conventions and the like. Most organizers will look elsewhere for lower costs and safer communities like in Florida, Texas etc.

Not that much of this matters, most people I know in New England who would normally make some trips to the city are saying they aren't going back anytime soon due to the city's encouragement of crime. The city has some dark days ahead.
exactly. the city needs tourists. i hate tourists, but i acknowledge that they are a necessary evil. they drive a lot of the economy of this city. midtown is a ghost town because of no tourists and office workers. sure, i enjoy being able to walk around freely without dodging tourists not knowing where they're going, but it saddens me more than i am walking by boarded up businesses and restaurants.

The city NEEDS tourists. But the city also needs to make sure there is enough affordable housing. It is a delicate balance that not many places in the world are able to get right. That's why you see astronomical housing prices in practically every major city in the world.

The city needs to encourage tourists and businesses to come back. In the end, their money will benefit the people who live here the most.
 

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Regardless of anyone's opinion of the merits of the probably imminent hotel policy, I think the implications for the stadium are fairly non-controversial. If the city government is prepared to increase its ability to maximize concessions from hotel developers in the current environment, then the likelihood they will ease up on similar efforts for other construction is not so good. Which doesn't mean NYCFC will be unable to build, but does mean they should expect to subsidize a bunch of things that don't directly benefit the club in order to do so, and the likelihood they get a post-Corona discount is low.
 
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If people can’t afford to rent a hotel, they won’t travel to NY. They’ll go to Philly or DC instead.
 

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Regardless of anyone's opinion of the merits of the probably imminent hotel policy, I think the implications for the stadium are fairly non-controversial. If the city government is prepared to increase its ability to maximize concessions from hotel developers in the current environment, then the likelihood they will ease up on similar efforts for other construction is not so good. Which doesn't mean NYCFC will be unable to build, but does mean they should expect to subsidize a bunch of things that don't directly benefit the club in order to do so, and the likelihood they get a post-Corona discount is low.
Ugh, how many years did they have to catch this boat before they missed it? Perfect is the enemy of the good.
 
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good meant a stadium in Belmont
Or WP. Or that one in Mott Haven with the renderings. Or who knows where else. They said numerous times they had multiple sites. But they seemed determined to put it by YS and now we're here.
 

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Or WP. Or that one in Mott Haven with the renderings. Or who knows where else. They said numerous times they had multiple sites. But they seemed determined to put it by YS and now we're here.
I think the Bronx has been and will continue to be the path of least resistance to a stadium this decade. Every other site in the city will have its limitations and/or massive hurdles.
 

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Or WP. Or that one in Mott Haven with the renderings. Or who knows where else. They said numerous times they had multiple sites. But they seemed determined to put it by YS and now we're here.
the city mixed willets point. No one was going to mott haven. Or the air strip in Brooklyn.
Citi Field and Yankee Stadium sites were the only non midtown Manhattan sites that would ever work for the fans.
 
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the city mixed willets point. No one was going to mott haven. Or the air strip in Brooklyn.
Citi Field and Yankee Stadium sites were the only non midtown Manhattan sites that would ever work for the fans.
Yeah I think if we're being fair, putting the stadium next to Yankee Stadium has always been the far-and-away best option for any number of reasons. I'm fine with them holding out for their No. 1 choice even if it meant a longer wait. Rushing into a bad spot would have done more damage than waiting for the right spot.