2017 Roster Discussion
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It's rounding that means they're paid monthly
I totally get why it would make sense to do it. I just never thought there was reason to believe he would come here for that salary range, or that our FO would be that clever in deal-making.
Apparently, the way the buy out works, we are still paying Mix, but none of it counts against our salary cap. So, I am not surprised that his compensation is showing up in this report (he is still getting paid). However, the fact that the Players' Union is reporting it does not mean that it is hitting the cap.
We should all take care to realize that these numbers are simply total salary for the year. They do not necessarily match a how much a player's contract hits the cap. Lots of things can make the two things different, including that they player was bought out by the club, like Mix. Another difference is that the costs to acquire a player (e.g. transfer fees) are not included in the salary report, but they do count against the cap.
Note that we don't have a single player that is within TAM range - i.e. over the $470K maximum and under $1 million. Yet, we know that TAM was used on a few of the players (Brillant, Chanot and Ring). This means we used TAM to pay the acquisition costs for these guys but are not using it on their salaries.
Majorly sucky that Maxi is making $2 Million a year.
Is everyone here that attacked me still happy that he's your DP?
Is everyone here that attacked me still happy that he's your DP?
I thought it was reasonable to at least hope that he was below the TAM cap. We didn't really have enough information to know either way.
I am not willing to throw him under the bus until we see how the season plays out.
That's fair. I'm coming off harsher than I intend here to hopeful speculation. I'm instead thinking about some discussions where it seemed to be considered a given that we would buy MM down and we would get a new DP this summer: the only issue being who and how awesome.
Same. My tentative initial judgment is he is disappointing as a DP but I'll give him more than 7 games to show me wrong.
I would be disappointed if he was making that much, but there is a possibility that we could have frontloaded his contract if we had a pay a significant transfer fee, I guess we will see in 12 months.
There is no 1 million upper limit anymore just FYI.
Convenient list of all the NYCFC salaries
http://www.frontrowsoccer.com/2017/04/25/leading-way-pirlo-5-9m-villa-5-6m-top-nycfc-salary-list/
http://www.frontrowsoccer.com/2017/04/25/leading-way-pirlo-5-9m-villa-5-6m-top-nycfc-salary-list/
Well, I didn't attack you but I'm still happy he's "my" DP. He's really good, really fast, knows the game better than almost anyone, and it's only the beginning of his time here. I would not be at all surprised if he's a star in MLS after a time and that's what I'm hoping for.
Kind of feel similarly about Pirlo. Have no problem with him playing for us this year. He's super popular, he can still play, and at some point the rest of our team will take it up a notch so the defenders won't be able to double-team him so much and he'll get free again to do his thing. So I'm fine with him here for the year. Not so sure if he'll still be able to do it next year though but we can talk about that in October.
Still optimistic about our season despite the loss this past weekend.
Has that changed since February?
https://www.mlssoccer.com/league/official-rules/mls-roster-rules-and-regulations#allocation-money
Hopefully, we can still sign a "big" DP this summer. Odds are, most "big" DP's would be a summer transfer as opposed to winter. This means we'll have to be creative with salary for half the year(partial payments, TAM buy down) until Pirlo leaves at the end of the year. Have to be lucky enough to find a player willing to accept those terms as well......
But what if Pirlo is offered a coaching position and needs to leave in the summer...
Eh, guess we'll see. Pirlo doesn't seem to have the "personality" to coach in my eyes. Granted, they also said that about Zidane.
No longer true, they removed that particular bit of wording from the MLS salary cap page last time I checked.
I think he has it right. They changed the formatting of the rules and regs from last year. I don't remember the salary parameter section.
I linked to it four posts above yours. The $1 million limit still exists unless something has changed since February.
Oh hey, they changed it again!
It is possible to buy down Maxi Moralez because MLS also removed the section stating that you couldn't use both GAM and TAM to buy down a player below the salary budget charge. So clubs can combine both types of cap relief in one deal. Until this year clubs could not do this.
Since Maxi is on $2mm and the budget charge we subtract $480k (the maximum budget charge) we get $1.52mm in salary to buy down.
Since we received TAMof $1.2mm we only need 320k in GAM to buy down Maxi to the limit, which we definitely received because of expansion year shenanigans. Add in the rumored sale of Matarita and its completely doable without hilariously distorting our salary cap.
Edit: I was incorrect they changed the parameters of the buy down to a max of $1.5mm Maxi is our DP for the year. Unless weird Garber intervention occurs.
It is possible to buy down Maxi Moralez because MLS also removed the section stating that you couldn't use both GAM and TAM to buy down a player below the salary budget charge. So clubs can combine both types of cap relief in one deal. Until this year clubs could not do this.
Since Maxi is on $2mm and the budget charge we subtract $480k (the maximum budget charge) we get $1.52mm in salary to buy down.
Since we received TAMof $1.2mm we only need 320k in GAM to buy down Maxi to the limit, which we definitely received because of expansion year shenanigans. Add in the rumored sale of Matarita and its completely doable without hilariously distorting our salary cap.
Edit: I was incorrect they changed the parameters of the buy down to a max of $1.5mm Maxi is our DP for the year. Unless weird Garber intervention occurs.
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