If we wont sign a 3rd DP till June, can we make Chanot a DP for cap purposes for 6 months, then strip him of that status and use GAM/TAM to bring his figure down?
2017 Roster Discussion
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I'd go with Lopez for #11, he had an actual role on the team last season and Mena would be helpful to lose (salary + int'l spot)
They're happening but they're a long ways away. It's a long process and I don't know how much NYCFC or MLS can speed it along. Don't count on it anytime soon.
If Chanot really is at $760K full year against the cap, then you must get rid of Mix ASAP as having two players hoovering up all that GAM/TAM is ridiculous. Chanot also needs to play like a top 5 CB in MLS to justify that salary.
The asterisk is because it's an estimate based on his listed salary and
NYCFCfan 's report on his purchase price (that I then amortized). But it's probably close to accurate. And yes, I agree that 2 players can't represent $1.5mm in cap space against a $3.7mm cap. Especially, if one doesn't play!
Make sense. I would certainly keep Lopez over White if that's the choice because Lopez has a useful (limited) role and White really doesn't. As between Lopez and Mena, I think it turns on two things:
(1) Do you think you can trade Mena for something valuable? I don't have a good sense of this, though I'm definitely in the camp that thinks he is a much better player in different system, so it feels like you should be able to.
(2) Can you teach Mena to play in our system? As much as I like him, I don't see it. So, unless you can trade him for value, I think you expose him and see if someone takes the salary off our books.
Where do you see 7-8 starters? I'd like to see your list. I see 4-5, max.
Here's one more bit of info for you. NYCFC don't fully own Matarrita.The asterisk is because it's an estimate based on his listed salary and
They split the contract with Alajulense. They would have to share half of whatever profits they get from a sale with Alajulense or they can just sell their half to another team, though co-ownership has been pretty much phased out of Europe.
Not to mention MLS gets a cut.
For the sake of entertainment, here's where the group was when I solicited people's views on who they'd protect in the expansion draft back in July. I think there were some other votes after this, but I can't find the updated tally.
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?th...appen-expansion-draft.4684/page-2#post-152245
http://nycfcforums.com/index.php?th...appen-expansion-draft.4684/page-2#post-152245
If the answer to #1 is yes, you have to protect him. If he has value, letting him go for nothing isn't a good move.
1. GK Lurch
2. LB Mata (but now he may be gone...
3. CB Chanot
4. CB Brilliant
5. M Pirlo
6. M Jack
7. F Villa
?8. Tmac
That's 7-8 bud
Is it that they co-own him with Alajulense or just that they gave Alajulense a sell-on fee when we bought him under which we'd have to remit part of the proceeds from a subsequent transfer back to them? I recall there had been a bunch of reports that they were haggling over a sell-on fee. Didn't realize that they didn't actually buy him outright if that is, in fact, what happened.
1. GK Lurch
2. LB Mata (but now he may be gone...
3. CB Chanot
4. CB Brilliant
5. M Pirlo
6. M Jack
7. F Villa
?8. Tmac
That's 7-8 bud
Oh. You mean starters for us. I thought you meant starter quality relative to the league (and by league, I'm ignoring the bottom of the table because that's not where we're aiming to be anyway).
MLS Starter quality: Matarrita, Chanot, Villa, Mix if he's playing.
I am not convinced fully that Jack should be 90 every week. Pirlo depends on what we put around him. TMac is a decent option, but far from lock starter quality to me.
I just hope Connor Brandt is signed by another MLS club so they'll pay for all of his medical expenses.
The asterisk is because it's an estimate based on his listed salary and
Make sure you break it down. They do not represent 1.5mm in cap space. They represent ~832k in cap space with GAM/TAM utilized in order to get them back under.
In Chanot's case we have definitely used the much more resteicted TAM in order to buy down his contract. In Mix's case we have used precious precious GAM in order to make it work.
My question is do we get the GAM we burnt on Mix back if we sell, trade or don't protect him? Under what conditions might we reclaim lost GAM or is it a completely sunk cost?
I'm still holding out hope that Mix plays for us in 2017. I base this on the silence coming from both camps. Neither the team or the player/agent has made any public noise regarding his situation.
If he was just completely being shut out by the team, why wouldn't the agent be making noise looking for a trade? If he was a total prick and not doing what the team asked of him, why wouldn't the team make that public? like they have for the Drogba situation, etc.
All we have is Frank saying he respects him for this year.
It solves a lot of our roster problems if we get him back on the field
If he was just completely being shut out by the team, why wouldn't the agent be making noise looking for a trade? If he was a total prick and not doing what the team asked of him, why wouldn't the team make that public? like they have for the Drogba situation, etc.
All we have is Frank saying he respects him for this year.
It solves a lot of our roster problems if we get him back on the field
Damn 6 players leave and y'all won't even allow for a new thread. Vicious.
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