Away - March 7 - Toronto (Postmatch)

[ZYanksRule]

All due respect, but some of you guys are being ridiculous. We're two MLS games in, and both have been what's expected to be two of our toughest road games of the season.

Up next in the league it's home for Dallas, home for Vancouver, away at D.C. United, then home for Chicago. Those are four teams that are not expected to be very good this year, and frankly, we should expect no less than 8 points out of those games, if not 10 points. If we bomb those four games, then we can start to worry. Until then, we need to have some perspective.

It's hard to have much confidence right now when we go up against Tigres, but we just had two really hard road games. This team is going to be fine.

 

[moogoo]

All due respect, but some of you guys are being ridiculous. We're two MLS games in, and both have been what's expected to be two of our toughest road games of the season.

Up next in the league it's home for Dallas, home for Vancouver, away at D.C. United, then home for Chicago. Those are four teams that are not expected to be very good this year, and frankly, we should expect no less than 8 points out of those games, if not 10 points. If we bomb those four games, then we can start to worry. Until then, we need to have some perspective.

It's hard to have much confidence right now when we go up against Tigres, but we just had two really hard road games. This team is going to be fine.

if we bomb those 4 games, we'll be at the same point Dome was when he was fearing for his job. So, yea - I'm fine to wait til then. That being said, it's still difficult to watch when I hate TFC SO DAMN MUCH.

Hopefully, we can pull it together on wednesday. Hoping RBA will be mostly OUR fans and not Tigres. Maybe that'll pump our guys up and give them the motivation to take down a struggling Tigres side. We'll need 3-4 goals to take with us to Mexico if we want a real chance at advancing.

 

[ZYanksRule]

if we bomb those 4 games, we'll be at the same point Dome was when he was fearing for his job. So, yea - I'm fine to wait til then. That being said, it's still difficult to watch when I hate TFC SO DAMN MUCH.

Hopefully, we can pull it together on wednesday. Hoping RBA will be mostly OUR fans and not Tigres. Maybe that'll pump our guys up and give them the motivation to take down a struggling Tigres side. We'll need 3-4 goals to take with us to Mexico if we want a real chance at advancing.

Make no mistake -- we've looked like crap so far this season. But it's nowhere near time to panic. It doesn't seem terribly likely that we would score 3-4 goals against Tigres, but if they really are struggling that badly, who knows what can happen.

 

[moogoo]

Make no mistake -- we've looked like crap so far this season. But it's nowhere near time to panic. It doesn't seem terribly likely that we would score 3-4 goals against Tigres, but if they really are struggling that badly, who knows what can happen.

and have to take into consider they'll be playing in front of our fans. these past 2 games have been away. we usually are better at home. even if it is RBA. with our crowd behind them, it might help. .. hopefully.

 

[Antidote P. Smiley]

Last season the team was at 5 points after 6 games. One suspects that the total will be higher this year.

The past two games were not ideal, but it seems premature to judge after two road games against two top five teams in the conference (one of which was 10 v. 11).

That noted, Parks left every pass short today and Maxi was ineffective, at best. There was no connection today into the final third. They need to improve quickly. Or, the summer window better be Medina out and a new 10 in.

Better than 5 points after six games this year?
Hmmm....
I‘m prepared to start the season 0 and 3.
Yeah, it’s still possible to pick up 6 points in the 3 after Dallas but that means no bonehead mistakes and wearing some goal scoring shoes.
I’m inclined to say if we start 0 and 3 we don’t do better than 5 points in 6.

Anybody want to guess total goals for NYCFC next week? (Tigres and Dallas matches)

On another note, I wish Dome was watching games and doing post match analysis.

 

[moogoo]

watching the galaxy game. corona just got a 2nd yellow for the same stomping type foul that was committed on callens. Unkel you FOOL!

 

[ZYanksRule]

watching the galaxy game. corona just got a 2nd yellow for the same stomping type foul that was committed on callens. Unkel you FOOL!

Unkel was fine with me considering he didn't give the PK on the Sands play. I was actually more worried about Parks. In the moment, it kind of looked like his ankle buckled, but obviously he appeared to be OK.

 

[Christopher Jee]

It's ok, supporting shit teams builds character

 

[Keith Putnam]

we're in the same boat as TFC. bringing back 90% of players. There's no reason why we shouldn't be match sharp and TFC is.

toronto looked pretty match-sharp considering they have had a shorter preseason and fewer competitive games than NYCFC.

People replying to me as if I was *excusing* our lack of match-sharpness rather than merely observing and commenting on it.

Call it what you will but it's obvious the team is not up to speed, whether that's due to not having internalized Delia's tactics yet or simply having not played enough games (yes, that's a concern after four competitive matches, it's not a mitigating circumstance).

 

[Keith Putnam]

they'll be playing in front of our fans.

Let's be real, there are likely to be considerably more Tigres fans in the stands than NYCFC fans.

 

[mgarbowski]

There's a difference between too early to panic and too early to complain. NYC has not just failed to get results in its first two league games, they have been boring. I have a complaint to file.

Last week they had zero offense, and while you have to adjust expectations for the red card, a lot of us thought the team should have done better despite being a man down. Yesterday Miami had 6 shots in the final 36 minutes after going a man down. We had 7 shots a man down against Columbus with 87 minutes left. We should be better.
Yesterday NYC had just 2 shots in the first half. This was a game the players spoke of as one for which they were highly motivated. Then they come out completely disorganized and ineffective on offense.

In 2 games combined, the team has 17 shots. Héber has none. How do we play 2 games and he takes zero shots? He only had 2 games all last year with no shots, and one of those was his first appearance against Minnesota when he played 4 minutes. The second time was a full game 2 games later. He then had 18 straight appearances where he took at least 1 shot until this year, including a few where he subbed on for fewer than 30 minutes. Now suddenly we can't get him the ball at all. Something is broken. There's time. It can be fixed. But it's hard to watch it, especially against Toronto, where Vanney is starting his 7th straight year with 3 final appearances and an MLS Cup, while we change coaches every 1.7 years and have to keep going through this "let me break everything so I can fix it" bullshit.

 

[canchon]

Toronto had to play a kid as an emergency in his first MLS game and he looked more dangerous than any NYCFC player. I can’t believe after watching these players all last year that suddenly they are suddenly less than Toronto’s rookie. That’s tactics.

 

[JayH]

That’s tactics.

It’s not clear whether it’s tactics or confusion. I hope it’s the latter because some of that can be expected. But i am not confident that it’s not the former. And neither are helpful with a massive game for this club in just a few days.

 

[Ulrich]

Toronto had to play a kid as an emergency in his first MLS game and he looked more dangerous than any NYCFC player. I can’t believe after watching these players all last year that suddenly they are suddenly less than Toronto’s rookie. That’s tactics.

Can you believe the club’s most dangerous winger isn’t signed and is going to college next year - to think he’s was more effective than “seasoned” pros, but the gestalt of the club wouldn’t lend itself to an avenue to minutes for him. The most successful teams in any sport adopt the mantra of “best man plays” but we seem to adhere to the biggest contract in order to justify it.

 

[Christopher Jee]

It’s not clear whether it’s tactics or confusion. I hope it’s the latter because some of that can be expected. But i am not confident that it’s not the former. And neither are helpful with a massive game for this club in just a few days.

One thing I’m tossing over in my head is - why is there confusion? We had a team which looked good in many different systems. We knew how to move the ball forward while retaining numbers around the ball. How have we lost that style so quickly? What are we doing differently in training which means that all of the muscle memory and movement pattern that we built up over the last 18 months seems to have been lost?

 

[SoupInNYC]

Didn't help that Unkel occupied all our spaces as well, but at least that got better as the game went on.

I really don’t have many complaints about Unkel at all. Especially after two massive close calls each went our way.

But damn, he really couldn’t get out of the way of the ball on Saturday, could he? I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen a ref in the way as much as he was.

 

[Seth]

I really don’t have many complaints about Unkel at all. Especially after two massive close calls each went our way.

But damn, he really couldn’t get out of the way of the ball on Saturday, could he? I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen a ref in the way as much as he was.

Like our team, not quite fully match fit just yet.

 

[gbservis]

One thing I’m tossing over in my head is - why is there confusion? We had a team which looked good in many different systems. We knew how to move the ball forward while retaining numbers around the ball. How have we lost that style so quickly? What are we doing differently in training which means that all of the muscle memory and movement pattern that we built up over the last 18 months seems to have been lost?

This is all the more frustrating when you consider that Dome is not coaching anywhere right now. Nothing against Delia but it would have been nice if the team and Dome could have worked out their differences and kept him in place so we could keep building on the foundation he'd made and not entered another season with this issue of sorting out tactics under yet another new coach.

 

[mgarbowski]

This is all the more frustrating when you consider that Dome is not coaching anywhere right now. Nothing against Delia but it would have been nice if the team and Dome could have worked out their differences and kept him in place so we could keep building on the foundation he'd made and not entered another season with this issue of sorting out tactics under yet another new coach.

Add this to the list of club mysteries. We really don't know what drove him to leave. We have his statement about transfers and spending, but we don't know how much of that is deflection or self-serving (or the extent to which he failed to accept the limits of MLS spending). Did he have other opportunities lined up that fell through? Did he over-estimate his demand? Or was he truly so fed up with this club that he left regardless of whether he had any prospects?

 

[ZYanksRule]

Add this to the list of club mysteries. We really don't know what drove him to leave. We have his statement about transfers and spending, but we don't know how much of that is deflection or self-serving (or the extent to which he failed to accept the limits of MLS spending). Did he have other opportunities lined up that fell through? Did he over-estimate his demand? Or was he truly so fed up with this club that he left regardless of whether he had any prospects?

I continue to maintain I think it was more the league regulations than the team regulations that sent him over the edge. His thing about transfers and spending was spoken like someone who didn't understand the salary cap. His constant never-ending complaints about the schedule, etc.