This has been a great thread but I think it's time to close it.
By The Numbers: What We've Done, What Must We Do
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Tuned into MLS Live to watch the closing minutes of this one, in one of those corporate building plazas that the city enforces as a public space. Just to make it extra cheery, ya know 
Amazed we stayed in it for this long! Will be an interesting vibe on Oct 25.
Amazed we stayed in it for this long! Will be an interesting vibe on Oct 25.
Boy, that Old Drogba free kick was like an old Pirlo one.
I blame myself for shitting on Drogba. Nah. Not really. Still blame Kreis and Reyna and CFG.
I blame myself for shitting on Drogba. Nah. Not really. Still blame Kreis and Reyna and CFG.
Hasta la vista Boys and girls - The dream is over and now we are wide awake.
Now I am off to see USA vs Mexico .
According to to the Univision commentator , today we will see who dominates the CONCACAFF region. I believe most of us know who. The Passadena Stadium is full of Mexicans...
Never the less I still root for the stars and stripes .Arriba Arriba USA!!!!
I predict we end 0-0 and we have to go overtime. There goes my prediction Lol
Now I am off to see USA vs Mexico .
According to to the Univision commentator , today we will see who dominates the CONCACAFF region. I believe most of us know who. The Passadena Stadium is full of Mexicans...
Never the less I still root for the stars and stripes .Arriba Arriba USA!!!!
I predict we end 0-0 and we have to go overtime. There goes my prediction Lol
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Wow. Tbf, more Mexicans live by the rose bowl than Americans.
And seriously, what is your obsession with the Mexican team?
This is America. And we have driven the growth of the entire confederation. Get onboard.wave the flag.
I'll probably do a wrap-up post at season's end, but want to note two related things that are apparent right now.
First, in mid-season I predicted the playoff line would be somewhere from 42-46 points. To the extent others disagreed it was usually to predict a lower range. Right now it sits at 45 with 2 games to play. It will likely go above my predicted range, maybe by 3-5 points. Nobody, including me, saw that.
Second. The East is closer to the West than most anyone expected, especially in the middle. The West is stronger at both the top (3 teams over 50 points to 1 in the East) and bottom (1 team under 40 compared to 3 in the East), but the middles are very close and right now the key 6th Place team in the East has one more point than the 6th place team in the West. With 2 games left the West could still finish ahead, but the difference is unlikely to be very big.
OK 3 things: Montreal's huge games-in-hand resource caused a lot of people to underestimate them. People would write things like "one win and we're in a playoff spot" and when you pointed out that we'd be barely ahead of a team that had 5 extra games to play they would brush that off as irrelevant, or cavalierly assure you that Montreal would cave, as if it were given that Montreal would lose all 5 extra games. Actually, Monttreal's PPG has gone up during this period of playing extra games.
Which leads to, OK, 4 things: Drogba. Seriously. You could reasonably argue that he is singlehandedly responsible for points 1, 2 and 3 above. Adding Drogba has been better for Montreal than getting Lampard, Pirlo, and Angelino was for us. His signing was announced more than a year after Lampard (and 3 weeks after Pirlo) and he did more for his team than either, and arguably more than both combined. We didn't need two DP strikers so getting Drogba never made sense for us. But if Lampard or Soriano had the ability to feel shame this would be killing them right now. But as far as I can tell they don't give a damn. No apologies still.
First, in mid-season I predicted the playoff line would be somewhere from 42-46 points. To the extent others disagreed it was usually to predict a lower range. Right now it sits at 45 with 2 games to play. It will likely go above my predicted range, maybe by 3-5 points. Nobody, including me, saw that.
Second. The East is closer to the West than most anyone expected, especially in the middle. The West is stronger at both the top (3 teams over 50 points to 1 in the East) and bottom (1 team under 40 compared to 3 in the East), but the middles are very close and right now the key 6th Place team in the East has one more point than the 6th place team in the West. With 2 games left the West could still finish ahead, but the difference is unlikely to be very big.
OK 3 things: Montreal's huge games-in-hand resource caused a lot of people to underestimate them. People would write things like "one win and we're in a playoff spot" and when you pointed out that we'd be barely ahead of a team that had 5 extra games to play they would brush that off as irrelevant, or cavalierly assure you that Montreal would cave, as if it were given that Montreal would lose all 5 extra games. Actually, Monttreal's PPG has gone up during this period of playing extra games.
Which leads to, OK, 4 things: Drogba. Seriously. You could reasonably argue that he is singlehandedly responsible for points 1, 2 and 3 above. Adding Drogba has been better for Montreal than getting Lampard, Pirlo, and Angelino was for us. His signing was announced more than a year after Lampard (and 3 weeks after Pirlo) and he did more for his team than either, and arguably more than both combined. We didn't need two DP strikers so getting Drogba never made sense for us. But if Lampard or Soriano had the ability to feel shame this would be killing them right now. But as far as I can tell they don't give a damn. No apologies still.
Next year we win the Supporter's Shield!
The SS was won with a range from 59-66 points over the last 5 years, with a maximum attainable total of 63 this season. I don't see any reason to expect the shield to be won too far out of that range next season.
Hopefully we stay healthy next season and keep our key players, especially Shay Facey. With an entire offseason to prepare and build the entire team, we are going to be at a great advantage by way of having the best manager in the league!
20-9-5 =65 points
#KreisForever
The SS was won with a range from 59-66 points over the last 5 years, with a maximum attainable total of 63 this season. I don't see any reason to expect the shield to be won too far out of that range next season.
Hopefully we stay healthy next season and keep our key players, especially Shay Facey. With an entire offseason to prepare and build the entire team, we are going to be at a great advantage by way of having the best manager in the league!
20-9-5 =65 points
#KreisForever
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Looking back at the season's worth of results, and its easy to see the games that hurt us the most.
Opening day draw to Orlando: simply have grabavoy not make a dumb ass foul to allow Kaka to tie the gae and we are tied for 7th today.
Montreal loss on Aug 1: We played a high line and let them lob ball over our defense to oduro (if i recall correctly) and lost. If we win that game, we are 2 points behind Montreal today.
Honorable mention: our record vs the 9 and 10 seeds in each conference: 1-3-3
Opening day draw to Orlando: simply have grabavoy not make a dumb ass foul to allow Kaka to tie the gae and we are tied for 7th today.
Montreal loss on Aug 1: We played a high line and let them lob ball over our defense to oduro (if i recall correctly) and lost. If we win that game, we are 2 points behind Montreal today.
Honorable mention: our record vs the 9 and 10 seeds in each conference: 1-3-3
Ryan Marea fucking up losing 1-0 to Chicago in April.
We could have 96 points right now. We don't. Every match in which we dropped points cost us. If only we had avoided that 11-match stretch. I also believe if Frank and Pirlo did not arrive mid-season, we would have made the playoffs.
I agree with you. I also think, and I have stayed out of the Lampardgate discussions, that if Frank was here from the beginning we make the playoffs. I've always sort of been troubled by the whole thing, and I hate to say this, but now I think it was the single biggest cause of us not making the playoffs. If he's here from the beginning he gels with us earlier, he is a much stronger presence in mid-field during that horrible win-less stretch, and the July adjustments are not as significant.
My current avatar reads "Tenemos Cuy". Translation, "we have guinea pig." It's a South American delicacy, but you my 19,000+ founding member brothers and sisters and other fans, we are the guinea pigs. That is the statement from CFG. To me it means, we have a guinea pig, and it's NYCFC. An experiment and our breeding ground for players like Facey and Angelino, and all the other stuff that comes along with it.
By the way, I don't blame Kreis at all. The deck was stacked against him from the beginning. Give the team a chance. It's the first season and we started from scratch. Next year will be much better.
Let's go win our next two and set ourselves up for a great second season.
I didn't - and still don't - want Drogba on NYCFC, but he has been fantastic for Montreal and was absolutely the difference maker. For us as well, I suppose.
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