Ronny Deila Named NYCFC Head Coach / Deila Joins Standard Liège
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I think that it would definitely be a SS killer. And I think that it would probably disrupt another Cup run. We do have superior talent, and the benefit of the experience from last season's success, so the latter at least remains possible depending on how bumpy the transition becomes and the timing of the adjustment. In any event, it would suck, and it feels even worse given the bizarre circumstances and the fact that it's fcking Groundhog Day.
It is what it is. The top leagues don't work on our schedule. As frustrating as it is to lose managers to other leagues, it at least means we're doing something right. It's rare to have a Seattle situation.
It isn't what it is. We don't have to let a contracted coach go for a lateral move.
he's not exactly going to a top league though. if he had an offer to go to the EPL or La Liga, maybe you could say ok... but he's linked to belgium or the championship. neither are really better than MLS. only benefit would be going back to europe.
i dont know, if Championship wasnt seen as better than MLS then many players would not have been going there even on loans.
we also can't keep him un happy here. And doesn't his contract end at the end of 2022 anyway? its not like he is in the middle of a contract still, only few months to go.
It might be slightly better than MLS, but I wouldn't say it is head and shoulders better. Maybe the top few teams are quality but mid to bottom table are not better than MLS squads on average, imho.
I don't recall any big name MLS players going to the championship on a transfer or loan of hand...
Jordan Morris, Dike ( when he had hype), Arriola,
i dont know man, am i really putting money on mid table teams like orlando, Columbus, Houston, Minnesota to beat even mid to lower end championship teams? i would not.
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I think his family is still over in Europe and that could potentially play a massive factor in all of this.
i think his youngest daughter and his gf/wife is here with him. he has two adult daughters that may be in Norway though.
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Whether it's for family, ambition, or whatever, you have to let him go. But a midseason departure stinks and every other MLS club manages to avoid it except for what was probably a one-off at RB .
Further, if he leaves, it will be the third consecutive coach to quit on us with none lasting more than 2.5 years. It's not good. But at least he won a trophy. Vieira and Torrent left us with pretty soccer and a decent point accumulation, but nothing else.
Further, if he leaves, it will be the third consecutive coach to quit on us with none lasting more than 2.5 years. It's not good. But at least he won a trophy. Vieira and Torrent left us with pretty soccer and a decent point accumulation, but nothing else.
Can I make the interesting case that all of our coaches tend to end up moving up to leagues that’s perceived as better leagues. Most mls coaches end up on the mls carousel going around from one mls club to another MLS club. There are a few outliers like tata and marsh that come to mind that moved out of mls but most seem to move around the same pool and therefore have the same off season. Perhaps our current and former coaches have a higher pedigree and why they are getting poached too other leagues in Europe and South America. (Jason Kreis not included). And a non NYCFC example of this as mentioned above is Tata Martino who came from a higher pedigree of coaches as well and now has a job with the Mexican national team.
edit: and to clarify I agree it’s not good to have a coach leave mid season. It does suck. But under my assumption we get better coaches. Does it work out better in the end than having a middling coach that stays for 4 to 10 years, vs. losing a perceived higher quality coach and disrupting our play mid season, I’m not sure.
Eh.
Vieira never had a head job before us. Great player, but no coaching pedigree whatsoever.
Torrent was an assistant at the highest level to arguably the best coach of the era, but more than 10 years removed from his most recent head coaching job, all of which were with lower level teams.
Ronny was our third choice at best behind Artete and GVB who strung us along and left us scrambling. That it worked out is great and I love him, and he did have previous success, but his pedigree? MLS is arguably the best domestic league he coached in. SP is a crap league with 2 good teams. You want to bring up UCL? As far as I know his UCL record is why he didn't stay at Celtic.
Basically we hire guys from Europe. Europe, and apparently Brazil, prefer Europeans.
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I wonder if language skills present an issue with domestic grown MLS coaches going abroad. I don't know when Marsch learned German but he seemed pretty functionally fluent in some videos that went around. Guys who know at least one Romance language well have an easier time skating by with the other languages. Even though English is the lingua franca (so to speak) someone who knows only English competently might not have the same options in other countries.
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And then you have Bradley and Marsch in the PL. Insert 2 countries divided by a common language joke here.
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Who says he’s unhappy? You’re an easy touch. You can’t credibly run a business if you regularly allow employees to opt out of contracts.
if he really wants to go to Standard/ blackburn and they want him too, and nycfc force the contract on him ( which only lasts till December, unless he extended which i dont think he has yet, i could be wrong) he will not be happy. Patrick Vieira wanted to go, they said go.
this is not regular business though, contracts get cut off early all the time. players force moves too, although with them is a little different since their value is much higher than a coach.
I wonder if NYCFC will try to get compensation in the form of a player. I think I read somewhere that it was a consideration. There are a few spots on the roster that could use another player, maybe they try to fill a hole.
i also read "compensation" but i highly doubt its a player. i cant think of a situation of a player was given to a team to let go of their manager. i have seen a "fee" paid but in this case for NYCFC/ CFG i dont think thats really a priority.
His contract runs through June 2023, oddly.
You say contracts get cut off early all the time - I don’t think that’s true — what are some examples of that?
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