2018 Roster Discussion

Good for us, bad for Sands. Ofori slots in with Ring and Herrera in that deeper midfield rotation.

I wonder if there is a $750,000 buy clause at the end of the loan...
 
Good for us, bad for Sands. Ofori slots in with Ring and Herrera in that deeper midfield rotation.

I wonder if there is a $750,000 buy clause at the end of the loan...
I thought PV said in an interview that Sands will be used at both DMid and CB. He’ll get minutes between the two.
 
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EDIT: Encouraging that he remained the starter for the Ghanian National Team during the last year even though he got little time for Stuttgart. He did this last summer:


I loved his profile last year when we were rumored after him, still hopeful he wins a starting spot. Love the competition we have now.
 
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First person to provide insight into why Ofori wasn't getting playing time at Stuttgart wins. Ready, go!

EDIT: Encouraging that he remained the starter for the Ghanian National Team during the last year even though he got little time for Stuttgart. He did this last summer:


I loved his profile last year when we were rumored after him, still hopeful he wins a starting spot. Love the competition we have now.
He isn't good enough.
 
I'm not giving Bobby Warshaw the clicks, so I'm just going to post his write up on us. And before I do that, let me just start by saying fuck Bobby Warshaw. He's continually spreading the false notion that you need a team with many Americans to do well in the league. They know MLS. They know the players. They know the travel. What absolute bullshit. This is honestly some right-wing nationalist soccer propaganda he's putting out.

New York City FC: Institutional knowledge
New York City FC is another team that appears to be very nicely balanced from the front to back with talent all over the field. However, they could still have the same problem that haunted them the last two years: a lack of steel in the back. “Steel in the back” is a bad soccer cliche, so let me re-frame the concept.

There’s a clear trend over the 22 years of MLS Cups: every single champion has had a domestic player starting at center back. What does that mean in reference to 2018? Why does having a domestic center back matter? Domestic players bring institutional knowledge. They understand how to navigate certain moments over a long season. When the team goes down a man against an emotional Columbus team at the end of the year, they have a better understanding of the situation.

David Villa and head coach Patrick Vieira offer plenty of experience, but it always helps to have a guy who’s been there and done that at center back. Maxime Chanot and Alexander Callens have the ability to win a championship for their team, but it remains to be seen if they have the strange intangible that’s been ever-present in MLS winners.

After NYCFC lost 4-1 to Columbus, Warshaw went on his old podcast (The Play) with this same bullshit - NYCFC lost because they needed an “American” CB to calm down and deal with the emotion. His examples: Bobby Boswell and *cough* Chris Wingert.

No international player has ever played a knockout tournament? Or went down a man? This is fucking insulting to Callens and Chanot, that they can’t play because they aren’t domestic. Now I know why Mascherano didn’t come to MLS - only an “American” CB can perform! Insulting.

Warshaw used to be good but he’s now just trying to say contrarian shit. He’s awful on the MLS podcast and it’s funny to hear the other guys reaction to his crap.
 
I'm not giving Bobby Warshaw the clicks, so I'm just going to post his write up on us. And before I do that, let me just start by saying fuck Bobby Warshaw. He's continually spreading the false notion that you need a team with many Americans to do well in the league. They know MLS. They know the players. They know the travel. What absolute bullshit. This is honestly some right-wing nationalist soccer propaganda he's putting out.

New York City FC: Institutional knowledge
New York City FC is another team that appears to be very nicely balanced from the front to back with talent all over the field. However, they could still have the same problem that haunted them the last two years: a lack of steel in the back. “Steel in the back” is a bad soccer cliche, so let me re-frame the concept.

There’s a clear trend over the 22 years of MLS Cups: every single champion has had a domestic player starting at center back. What does that mean in reference to 2018? Why does having a domestic center back matter? Domestic players bring institutional knowledge. They understand how to navigate certain moments over a long season. When the team goes down a man against an emotional Columbus team at the end of the year, they have a better understanding of the situation.

David Villa and head coach Patrick Vieira offer plenty of experience, but it always helps to have a guy who’s been there and done that at center back. Maxime Chanot and Alexander Callens have the ability to win a championship for their team, but it remains to be seen if they have the strange intangible that’s been ever-present in MLS winners.
No one is ever going to convince me that Atlanta's CB pair of LGP and Parkhurst is better for a playoff run then Chanot and Callens.

I feel like this is a example where correlation does not mean causation.

Domestic players are more common at CB because it's a position that the US has generally developed well, and MLS teams have more often focused on spending money on the offensive side of the ball.

And bullshit that Chanot and Callens lack "steel"
 
Who is more likely to score next season, Ring or Ofori?

Depends on which player plays the most. During his first season at Kaiserslautern, Ring played in a more attacking position and still didn't score once. In his second season he played as the deepest defensive midfielder and scored six in only 24 appearances. Scoring goals is a matter of self-confidence, and once a player hits the net, he's bound to score more.
 
First person to provide insight into why Ofori wasn't getting playing time at Stuttgart wins. Ready, go!

EDIT: Encouraging that he remained the starter for the Ghanian National Team during the last year even though he got little time for Stuttgart. He did this last summer:


I loved his profile last year when we were rumored after him, still hopeful he wins a starting spot. Love the competition we have now.

For what it's worth, here's what one Stuttgart fan told me:

"Seems like he wasn't ready for Bundesliga football. Made a horrible pass that cost us the game against Frankfurt. Never made it onto the pitch after that. Looked solid in the second division. Great control of the ball and overall fine technique."
 
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Who is more likely to score next season, Ring or Ofori?
Honestly, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Ring bags 3. He did have some bad shots last year, but he put himself in some really good positions and we saw that he has the ability to shoot with some class as noted by his FK goal for Finland last year.

He also had a few shots from the top of the box that were either deflected or had a nice save. I get why he gets ragged for this as he had quite a few shots that really sailed, but I want him to keep shooting as I don't think he's as terrible a shooter as made out to be.
 
Good for us, bad for Sands. Ofori slots in with Ring and Herrera in that deeper midfield rotation.

I wonder if there is a $750,000 buy clause at the end of the loan...
I'm guessing Ofori is our plan to deal with Herrera leaving. Its been reported Herrera is here on a 2 year loan, if he's gone after this season, would be a great way to just go ahead and plug Ofori in at that spot.
 
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I'm guessing Ofori is our plan to deal with Herrera leaving. Its been reported Herrera is here on a 2 year loan, if he's gone after this season, would be a great way to just go ahead and plug Ofori in at that spot.

Well, Ofori would be a loan as well, but perhaps the intent is to buy at the end of the year if things work out.

He had a good half season last spring when he helped Stuttgart achieve promotion, but has done nothing since they joined the Bundesliga. He had one appearance for 9 minutes against Frankfurt that is described as a disaster. He seems to be viewed as having given up the winning goal in stoppage time. From what I can tell, he committed a foul that led to a set piece from which they scored. But from watching the video the set piece only succeeded because of a poor clearance followed by poor marking, neither of which he was involved in.

All that is a way of evaluating Stuttgart's intent. They may be looking to get him some minutes somewhere in the hope he will develop further for them, but it might also be that they believe things aren't working out and are looking at this as the first step in a permanent transfer.
 
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Well, Ofori would be a loan as well, but perhaps the intent is to buy at the end of the year if things work out.

He had a good half season last spring when he helped Stuttgart achieve promotion, but has done nothing since they joined the Bundesliga. He had one appearance for 9 minutes against Frankfurt that is described as a disaster. He seems to be viewed as having given up the winning goal in stoppage time. From what I can tell, he committed a foul that led to a set piece from which they scored. But from watching the video the set piece only succeeded because of a poor clearance followed by poor marking, neither of which he was involved in.

All that is a way of evaluating Stuttgart's intent. They may be looking to get him some minutes somewhere in the hope he will develop further for them, but it might also be that they believe things aren't working out and are looking at this as the first step in a permanent transfer.
Yup, all MLS loans have buy clauses in them.

I'm assuming that there is a much higher intent to buy with Ofori than there is with Herrera. (and that has nothing to do with we wouldn't want to buy Herrera, but CFG wants him back in Europe somewhere)
 
He had one appearance for 9 minutes against Frankfurt that is described as a disaster. He seems to be viewed as having given up the winning goal in stoppage time. From what I can tell, he committed a foul that led to a set piece from which they scored. But from watching the video the set piece only succeeded because of a poor clearance followed by poor marking, neither of which he was involved in.
Also, this is completely unrelated to this thread, but I wanted to touch on this more....

You rightfully pointed out that he wasn't involved in the poor clearance after poor marking so those pieces aren't his fault. But also, I feel like people are often doling out too much blame to the player who fouls in these cases, and the blame really only gets cast out if the set piece results in a goal. This is very revisionist thinking IMO as that same blame isn't cast around if the FK goes into the wall, is saved, skies over the bar, etc. (and just to be clear, I'm not saying that you are doing this yourself).
 
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