2016 Playoff Projections, or Hope By The Numbers

Average points per game for remaining opponents of the five major contenders in the East.

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We play basically #1 and #2 in the league in our remaining games and still have the lowest opponent PPG. Yeah, the rest of the schedule is soooooooooft. (And thank god those 2 games are at the Pigeon Coop).

But we all know how NYCFC cleaned up against the easy early schedule (gulp).
 
Games remaining between the Top 5.

NYCFC: None
Toronto: at Philly, vs. Montreal, vs. RBNJ, vs. Philly, at Montreal
Montreal: at Toronto, at NJRB, at Philly, at NJRB, vs. Toronto
New Jersey: vs. Montreal, at Toronto, vs. Montreal, vs. Philly, at Philly
Philadelphia: vs. Toronto, vs. Montreal, at Toronto, at NJRB, vs. NJRB

NYCFC finished its games against the other four contenders 3-3-3.

Lets hope they all draw.
 
So what you are saying is that the guy who figures out the schedule is a TFC fan?
This is the same league that scheduled NYC at Portland, then at Toronto mid-week, and then coming home to face RBNJ. Jeez.
I think it's a function of their stadium renovation. They played 8 straight Away games to start the season. They're making them up with some midweek home games sandwiched between weekend home games.
 
We're officially the 6th place team now. On the playoff bubble when the line for the playoffs is still way below where it usually ends up.

Trying not to overreact to the recent stretch, because:
  • Besides one 15 minute stretch last night, they looked good even with an out-of-form Villa
  • The recent 4 game stretch has been bad, but we've been through this before (including earlier this season). Things will turn around and we'll have another good run of games (it might not start in Yankee Stadium vs. Philadelphia... but who knows, sometimes these things happen when you least expect them).
  • Still (barely) a playoff team.
  • Last year they looked bad and lost. This year, at least there are moments when the soccer looks really good. We will at least see year-to-year progress.

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Updating an old chart.
  • Playoff pace for 2016 hasn't budged at all in the last ~10 weeks (still on pace for only 42 pts for 6th place), and is still below historical average (49 pts), but close to where it was at this time last year before it ticked up towards the end... will be interesting to see if the 6th place line moves up like it did last year.
  • NYCFC is 10 points ahead of where they were last year, and on pace for a 52 point season.

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Playoff pace for 2016 hasn't budged at all in the last ~10 weeks (still on pace for only 42 pts for 6th place), and is still below historical average (49 pts), but close to where it was at this time last year before it ticked up towards the end... will be interesting to see if the 6th place line moves up like it did last year.
The two biggest factors in this are the number of ties and the East record against the West, as we've discussed before. If anyone thinks of another factor please chime in.
Last year the East just stopped playing to draws in the last quarter of the season. Only 16.7% of East draws came in that last 25% of the season.
Also, last year the East earned 1.14 PPG against the West in the first 85 interconference games through August. Then the East went 8-4-3 for 1.80 PPG against the West in the last 2 months.

There is no reason to think the East will do either of those again, but there was no reason to think they would do it last year either.
 
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Also, the East played 66 draws combined all last year. This year the total is already 76.

I think the playoff line might go above where it is currently pointing at 42 or so, but not nearly as much as it did last year.
 
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I hope we go all in to play for a top two bye. With our style of play, a one and done game would be so scary, even if we were the better team. I like our chances against anyone in a home and home, especially with the way we seem to travel as compared to the rest of the conference.
 
I hope we go all in to play for a top two bye. With our style of play, a one and done game would be so scary, even if we were the better team. I like our chances against anyone in a home and home, especially with the way we seem to travel as compared to the rest of the conference.
I agree except against Red Bulls. We can beat them in a game, but I'd be worried about them in at least one game of a home and home.
 
The two biggest factors in this are the number of ties and the East record against the West, as we've discussed before. If anyone thinks of another factor please chime in.
Last year the East just stopped playing to draws in the last quarter of the season. Only 16.7% of East draws came in that last 25% of the season.
Also, last year the East earned 1.14 PPG against the West in the first 85 interconference games through August. Then the East went 8-4-3 for 1.80 PPG against the West in the last 2 months.

There is no reason to think the East will do either of those again, but there was no reason to think they would do it last year either.
While I think this matters somewhat, the playoff line isn't really determined by Conference performance. It's determined by the teams competing (or thinking they are competing) for the #6 spot.

Short of a collapse by one or more of the top 5, the East playoff line will almost certainly be determined by the performances of NE/DC/ORL.

So while looking at the East in general can be interesting. It's the performance of those three teams that is what really matters for the playoff line.
 
I hope we go all in to play for a top two bye. With our style of play, a one and done game would be so scary, even if we were the better team. I like our chances against anyone in a home and home, especially with the way we seem to travel as compared to the rest of the conference.

Yep, a top two bye is absolutely key in this league. You avoid any one game playoff - at least until the end. Plus, while I haven't run the stats, I think we have to be well ahead of the rest of the league in away goals scored, which is a key advantage in a home-away matchup.

Finally, if we can't get top two, there is a good advantage in being third this year. If we have to play a single knockout game, better it be against DCU/NER/ORL instead of one of the Big 5.
 
You can say what you want about the MLS conference and playoff format, but it almost makes it a requirement to scoreboard watch, wherever on the table your team may be. It's a lot of fun.
 
While I think this matters somewhat, the playoff line isn't really determined by Conference performance. It's determined by the teams competing (or thinking they are competing) for the #6 spot.

Short of a collapse by one or more of the top 5, the East playoff line will almost certainly be determined by the performances of NE/DC/ORL.

So while looking at the East in general can be interesting. It's the performance of those three teams that is what really matters for the playoff line.
You're right, except you're wrong as it doesn't usually seem to work that way, except you're right because it did -- in part -- last year.:confused:
Here's what I mean:
Of course only the performance of the ultimate 6th place team matters, but conference performance has a big effect on that. As an example, last year the East as a whole had 462 points. This year if the PPG projections hold up, it will have only 425 points. That's a variance of more more than 30 points which averages out to 3 points per spot. Of course it's not evenly distributed. If there were a bigger sample I expect we would see a bell curve, but with 10 teams we probably get a bell curve with a lot of random chance mixed in. But a 35-40 point increase or decrease cannot help but have an effect on 6th place, unless all of the extra or missing points cluster very specifically.And generally a sudden spurt or fall off by the sixth place team self-corrects, because it will become the 5th or 7th place team. Right now the end of year distance between 1st and last projects to be about 24 points. Last year it was 30. Either way it is roughly an average 3-point gap between each spot. So on average once a team gets 3 points better or worse than previously projected it moves to a new spot and the team it flips with sets the new standard for sixth place. Unless there is an existing large gap specifically between spots 5-6-7 then individual team performance is undone by this effect.

But you are at least partially right because last year the East did have a decently sized 5 point gap between 6th and seventh. So TFC who finished 6th could have turned 1 win and 1 tie each into a loss, dropped 4 points, and still finished ahead of Orlando. So TFC's specific performance did matter to that extent and the playoff line could have been 45 with nothing else changing. Then OSC would be kicking themselves about every single late bad result they got last year to drop points. In the other direction, however, if TFC had won 4 more points the playoff line would only move up 1, because New England sat above them at 50. And if Toronto got one of it's extra points at the expense of New England, effectively taking 2 from the Revs, than NER would be down 2 and the line would move 1-point to 48. That's how individual team performance self-corrects and the total points won by the conference becomes more determinative.

In the end I would guesstimate the effect is 60/40 in favor of the conference as a whole, and maybe 50/50. But rarely can I see an individual team's performance making a difference of more than 4-5 points, and then only likely in one direction like TFC last year.

Finally, the only trend we can even try to predict is the overall conference performance, because there is no way to forecast that Montreal will win 6 of its last 8 or we would drop 6 of the last 9 like happened last year.* So I think the thing to do is predict the line based on the conference as a whole but allow for a few point variance or so either way at the end based on a couple of key teams having a good or bad streak at the end.

* As bad as we were, that was below our season average.
 
It's more fun when TFC doesn't win 3 games in 7 days.

Yep. They are now first on PPG, and are just now getting 100% healthy. I think they are the favorites for top seed. I think we battle with Montréal for 2nd. I think NJRB end up 4th and Philly 5th, but that may reverse.
 
Yep. They are now first on PPG, and are just now getting 100% healthy. I think they are the favorites for top seed. I think we battle with Montréal for 2nd. I think NJRB end up 4th and Philly 5th, but that may reverse.
Toronto has a bad stretch coming up where they could loose 3/3 in a week. Sat 8/20 at Philly who is now playing for their lives, wed 8/24 at Orlando where a few hacks could damage Giovinco, and Sat 8/27 home vs Montreal.

That is the crux of their schedule where they have to run a gauntlet of multiple games on short rest. They still have philly, Montreal, and RB after too so plenty of tough games for them.
 
Toronto has a bad stretch coming up where they could loose 3/3 in a week. Sat 8/20 at Philly who is now playing for their lives, wed 8/24 at Orlando where a few hacks could damage Giovinco, and Sat 8/27 home vs Montreal.

That is the crux of their schedule where they have to run a gauntlet of multiple games on short rest. They still have philly, Montreal, and RB after too so plenty of tough games for them.
Yeah. Their 4 game win streak was at home and next they are on the road 4 of 5. They are 7-1-3 at home so that's a major factor. Then they finish with 5 of 6 at home, and those 5 teams have a combined 4 Away wins (2 of which we are responsible for). Their home games against Philly and Red Bulls should be sure wins despite the opponent quality because both of those teams stink on the road. If TFC doesn't win them, it's a gift to us. If they do not come out of the next 5 games damaged it will be an upset if they don't go on to take the East. Their sole Away game in the last 6 is in Montreal, so we can hopefully count on that as a loss, but if they don't win at least 4 of their last 5 Home games I will be very pleasantly shocked. I really hope they fall apart in their next set of games you identified.
 
Strangely, one of the biggest influences on Toronto's success is Altidore. He makes Gio substantially better, and Gio seems to slump without him. I haven't worked out the numbers and am going on a statistical reference to this by one of the fantasy guys a few weeks ago. It seems to bare out.
 
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Games remaining between the Top 5.

NYCFC: None
Toronto: at Philly, vs. Montreal, vs. RBNJ, vs. Philly, at Montreal
Montreal: at Toronto, at NJRB, at Philly, at NJRB, vs. Toronto
New Jersey: vs. Montreal, at Toronto, vs. Montreal, vs. Philly, at Philly
Philadelphia: vs. Toronto, vs. Montreal, at Toronto, at NJRB, vs. NJRB

NYCFC finished its games against the other four contenders 3-3-3.

Forget everything else. This right here is the biggest reason we are a favorite for a bye in the playoffs.