I think the team actually has a great mix of established vets and young talent. What we're lacking is a manager who can put it together, get everyone on the same page, and execute a gameplan. Vieira started establishing the identity of a short-pass possession-based style, Dome put his spin on it and enhanced it. I've said it a million times on here but I just don't know what Ronny's trying to do with the team.
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I also think we're missing one star who is the leader on the field and carry the club. If we had Villa circa 2017 (not condoning his behavior) on this team right now we'd be fighting for Supporter's Shield with New England.
we are missing a leader period. johnson is not a captain. ring was a great captain and he lead by example. the fire was always there. johnson seems to clam up when shit gets real. where's his fire? I don't ever see him screaming to pump the guys up or calm them down. and we shipped ring out and replaced him with morales who is about as effective on the field as a lady bug. if he never sees the field again til his contract expires, i'll be a happy camper. play gideon or rocha in his place if we need the rotation.
we are also missing a coach who can put it all together like S sabertooth36 said. ronny has no clue. no plan. no consistent lineups. he rotates but doesn't seem to do it with any thought. even the best players in the world need some consistency around them so they can develop rhythm and chemistry.
Also -- when the season started we thought this would be a bit of a rebuilding year. Our expectations changed when the team was playing well, but I think we need to look at this season through that prism. We have to imagine all of Santi, Thiago, and Talles will improve as the years go on, and if they do we could be looking at a championship core fairly quickly. This is still one of the best rosters in MLS, and while we have some flaws, I think it seems pretty easy to see how this team can build it back up to a championship-level team.
The ladybug in A Bug's Life was pretty tough.
we don't even know if santi will be around next year yet.
thiago needs a lot of work. he's almost exactly like taty when he first arrived.
talles - there's a lot of potential there. with the proper guidance and hardwork on his part, and he could become a monster in a year or two.
100% agree with you that Johnson is not a good captain. I don't think goalies make good captains because they're stuck in the box. You need a captain that's going to approach a ref when there's a bad call or get in a players face to call them out or get them hyped. Johnson is not that guy.
I was pushing for the club to sign a player like Ighalo up top. Great guy, scores with ease, had a bad experience in the top tier which had him looking for a better fit for this part of his career arc, specifically mentioned MLS, etc. He ended up in the Saudi professional league (I have no idea how that compares to MLS) and has averaged almost a goal a game. He would have been a perfect fit, other than not having future sale value. There are lots of Ighalos out there, and we could have used a replenishing of the seasoned player balance with some of the other vets diminishing in output.
this type of player is who we should be looking for next. i think we are pretty much full on the young, developing players. Currently, we need a solid CB to takeover for chanot. We need a solid CAM, even if santi stays. I'd still like an experienced and creative CAM. those should be our next two DPs imho
Here is an interesting breakdown of MLS salaries. It's by salary range, with $1M+ in dark green and $500K-$1M in light green. This makes it's easy enough to view it as pay going to DPs vs. TAM vs. others. We seem to have the most spend in that $500K-$1M range.
New York City FC Signs Attacking Midfielder Santiago Rodriguez On Loan From Montevideo City Torque | New York City FC
NEW YORK, N.Y., June 9, 2021 - New York City FC today announced that the Club has acquired attacking midfielder Santiago Rodriguez from Montevideo City Torque on loan until December 2022. The Uruguayan youth national team player was signed before the close of the league’s Primary Transfer...
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The loan is through December 2022. Like any loan it could be terminated early, but I don't think that's what you meant.
I was gonna say, not to take anything away from Callens, Chanot, Tinnerholm and Johnson but that would kind of be a lie cause the caveat is that as much as I agree with you I don't think they are gonna go out and win you games. They will help you win games sure, they may even help you lose games. We certainly have seen a number of Johnson and Chanot bloopers over the past four seasons.
New York City FC Signs Attacking Midfielder Santiago Rodriguez On Loan From Montevideo City Torque | New York City FC
NEW YORK, N.Y., June 9, 2021 - New York City FC today announced that the Club has acquired attacking midfielder Santiago Rodriguez from Montevideo City Torque on loan until December 2022. The Uruguayan youth national team player was signed before the close of the league’s Primary Transfer...
The loan is through December 2022. Like any loan it could be terminated early, but I don't think that's what you meant.
huh... strange. i really thought it was a 1 season loan. but guess we will have him all of next season. that's good.
Whaaaaaaaaaaat are you talking about?
Tinnerholm had 4 goals / 5 assists in his first season, 1 goal 7 assists the next, 4 goals 4 assists the next, and this season only 3 assists.
Chanot/Callens have scored from corners in crucial games before.
Besides that, please explain to me how a solid backline that doesn't give up goals "doesn't win games" ? The less goals you concede, the more possible it is for you to win with less goals to score. And we have been very good defensively for the most part up until recently. Sure, it's not "going out and winning you games" but how many defenders actively win you games? They usually don't. They defend, which wins you games just as much as forwards do.
GA by year:
2021 so far 7th least (34 in 30 games)
2020 7th least (25 in 23 games)
2019 2nd least (42 in 34 games)
2018 7th least (45 in 34 games)
2017 5th least (43 in 34 games)
We have 4 games left, and unless we concede 8 goals in those 4 games (unlikely the way we've played recently defensively strong) we will have the best defensive record this team has ever seen. That would, usually, indicate a really good season, considering the places we ended up in during those seasons. It's not imo the defense that's the issue this season.
Chanot, Callens, Tinnerholm are very vocal. They're always the first ones at the referee standing up for calls and players.
https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/difference-style-make-nycfc-central-defense-pairing-one-best-mls from 2018.
The individual player threads in the NYCFC Roster section of the forum is a great resource for looking this stuff up.
LionNYC is very thorough about linking the initial signing announcement, and subsequent extensions, modifications, waiver announcements, etc. The club press releases don't always include the usual info, but whatever they do contain can be found through Lion's posts in that sub-forum.
Maybe I’m not being clear and I am pushing this a bit cause I think Callens has been great. Chanot pretty good with some Keystone cop style play… and yeah Tinnerholm has been great out this year aside.There a really good unit. I don’t think anyone expects them to go out and take over games or any team expects them…
I think my original post was about the tricky balance and that NYCFC maybe hasn’t done as well as they could have. A lot has to fall in place for a championship and clearly that didn’t happen this year (though I guess there is still a chance and wouldn’t that be f’n awesome) With all the players they brought in over the past two years I just wonder what bringing in a Bou, or Gill or Pozuelo would have done to help a team people thought had a core that was championship ready. I get it, sometimes you hit and sometimes you miss. What if instead of spending Money on Magno you brought in a more polished player this season? That’s all. I don’t mean disrespect to the defense.
Ah, gotcha, sorry. The second post makes it sound like you're saying we need a defensive overhaul which the numbers suggest we don't. But yeah, I agree with that. Morales could have been that sort of hit, but he's been more than disappointing. If he worked, he could have been better than tinnerholm. Maybe he'll improve going forward, because if he does he could be a nice plug in DM.
at his age, it's more likely he will get even worse, which is saying something because he's already pretty damn horrendous. from ladybug to... stink bug?
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