2022 Roster Discussion

[Shwafta]

Ok good. Then you know Taty couldn’t convert his chances then.

If you want to say that Taty’s one goal as a striker is to you know, … scores goals or convert chances, then you can argue he was streaky at times. But to say that the golden boot winner is not good seems more like a farce to me. Plus the amount of work Taty puts into every game that may not end up in the back of goal whether it’s hold up play, creative passing, transition play, or ball retention is also important.

He can't convert well. But yet he still scores a lot. And, as JCMore said, it's his off-the-ball and physicality that really bring him up a level. This is why I think we need to try him (if he stays next year) in a two-striker system, with the other in a more poacher type of role, and Taty as a target man or false 9 to help distract defenses and hold the ball while the other players, and crucially that other striker, move in around him. I think Taty/Heber pairing needs to be re-looked at.

 

[LionNYC]

What 12 do we protect? (Sands, Gray, Jasson, Haak, McFarlane, and Gloster are exempt)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1461729106228359172

 

[Shwafta]

What 12 do we protect? (Sands, Gray, Jasson, Haak, McFarlane, and Gloster are exempt)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1461729106228359172

This is what I would do:

Protect:
Gudi
Andrade
Magno
Callens
Chanot
Castellanos
Morales
Moralez (if he's staying another year. If not, put Acevedo or amundsen here)
Parks
Heber
Johnson
Barraza

Unprotected:
Acevedo
Amundsen
Latinovich
Medina
Mitrita
Mizell
Rocha
Shradi
Tinnerholm (injury for so long that there is no way they will select him)
Torres

I don't know how loan works, but if we need to protect rodriguez then obv protect him and put Heber onto unprotected. I doubt they would choose Heber.

 

[FredMertz]

Ugh, I hate this. MLS just can't be taken seriously until good-and-potentially-great players want to stay here rather than leave here. We'll always be the triple-A league as opposed to MLB until then.

With the new NBC deal, every league other than the Premier League is a selling league. There might be a few buying teams in those leagues, but we're all below the PL in the pyramid now...

 

[Kjbert]

If you want to say that Taty’s one goal as a striker is to you know, … scores goals or convert chances, then you can argue he was streaky at times. But to say that the golden boot winner is not good seems more like a farce to me. Plus the amount of work Taty puts into every game that may not end up in the back of goal whether it’s hold up play, creative passing, transition play, or ball retention is also important.

the first half of this season, he couldn’t convert his chances. He should have scored upwards of 30 goals this season.

If you just like hustle, go buy a Jo Inge Berger kit

 

[Kjbert]

This is what I would do:

Protect:
Gudi
Andrade
Magno
Callens
Chanot
Castellanos
Morales
Moralez (if he's staying another year. If not, put Acevedo or amundsen here)
Parks
Heber
Johnson
Barraza

Unprotected:
Acevedo
Amundsen
Latinovich
Medina
Mitrita
Mizell
Rocha
Shradi
Tinnerholm (injury for so long that there is no way they will select him)
Torres

I don't know how loan works, but if we need to protect rodriguez then obv protect him and put Heber onto unprotected. I doubt they would choose Heber.

Have to leave Morales unprotected. Not quite sure how Maxi works being out of contract. I wouldn’t protect Barazza. You can find a backup keeper. Would probably leave Heber out too.

 

[Shwafta]

Have to leave Morales unprotected. Not quite sure how Maxi works being out of contract. I wouldn’t protect Barazza. You can find a backup keeper. Would probably leave Heber out too.

Who would you protect instead, though? I don't think any of the others in the unprotected list merit protection over Morales who others on the forum have convinced me (and after watching him with more scrutiny) is pretty good. And I disagree with leaving Barraza unprotected, personally.

 

[Fantazma]

This is what I would do:

Protect:
Gudi
Andrade
Magno
Callens
Chanot
Castellanos
Morales
Moralez (if he's staying another year. If not, put Acevedo or amundsen here)
Parks
Heber
Johnson
Barraza

Unprotected:
Acevedo
Amundsen
Latinovich
Medina
Mitrita
Mizell
Rocha
Shradi
Tinnerholm (injury for so long that there is no way they will select him)
Torres

I don't know how loan works, but if we need to protect rodriguez then obv protect him and put Heber onto unprotected. I doubt they would choose Heber.

i dont think you need to protect maxi, he will be free and not tied to anything. I mean i guess Charlotte can try to get his rights and trade to NYCFC for more TAM? but i doubt it. There is still the question mark if Chanot retires to be assistant at nycfc 2. Barraza just signed a extension, i assume his salary increased so i dont think charlotte takes a back up keeper like that on a bigger salary. probably put santi/ then amundsen in those spots. Acevedo i dont think gets taken due to injuries this year.

 

[Kjbert]

Who would you protect instead, though? I don't think any of the others in the unprotected list merit protection over Morales who others on the forum have convinced me (and after watching him with more scrutiny) is pretty good. And I disagree with leaving Barraza unprotected, personally.

Tinnerholm. Acevedo.

Capped league.

 

[EganSoccerWords]

This is what I would do:

Protect:
Gudi
Andrade
Magno
Callens
Chanot
Castellanos
Morales
Moralez (if he's staying another year. If not, put Acevedo or amundsen here)
Parks
Heber
Johnson
Barraza

Unprotected:
Acevedo
Amundsen
Latinovich
Medina
Mitrita
Mizell
Rocha
Shradi
Tinnerholm (injury for so long that there is no way they will select him)
Torres

I don't know how loan works, but if we need to protect rodriguez then obv protect him and put Heber onto unprotected. I doubt they would choose Heber.

No way you protect a backup keeper over Santi or Acevedo. I think you also have to consider leaving Heber unprotected if Taty is still on the roster. Tough decision but the guy is coming off a major injury.

 

[Shwafta]

Tinnerholm. Acevedo.

Capped league.

Tinnerholm makes no sense to keep, he's injured and there's no way charlotte select him. Acevedo I can hear.

No way you protect a backup keeper over Santi or Acevedo. I think you also have to consider leaving Heber unprotected if Taty is still on the roster. Tough decision but the guy is coming off a major injury.

I don't know if Santi needs to be protected? He's a loan player, I doubt the agreements from the parent club allow for him to just be 'selected' and moved to another club

 

[EganSoccerWords]

Tinnerholm makes no sense to keep, he's injured and there's no way charlotte select him. Acevedo I can hear.


I don't know if Santi needs to be protected? He's a loan player, I doubt the agreements from the parent club allow for him to just be 'selected' and moved to another club

Santi has a contract with MLS not with NYCFC. Torque could probably recall him, but Charlotte would control his MLS rights.

 

[Shwafta]

Santi has a contract with MLS not with NYCFC. Torque could probably recall him, but Charlotte would control his MLS rights.

Ah, I didn't know that's how it works. Seems very silly to me. In that case I would drop Barraza for Santi, but I'd still keep Morales on there over tinnerholm. I just cannot ever see them selecting a player that would harm their cap for way longer than they need without contributing jack-all.

 

[Kjbert]

Tinnerholm makes no sense to keep, he's injured and there's no way charlotte select him. Acevedo I can hear.


I don't know if Santi needs to be protected? He's a loan player, I doubt the agreements from the parent club allow for him to just be 'selected' and moved to another club

Why wouldn’t Charlotte select him? He’s possibly the best RB in MLS since he entered the league.

 

[Shwafta]

Why wouldn’t Charlotte select him? He’s possibly the best RB in MLS since he entered the league.

If you were a team trying to build a roster for the first season, would you choose a player that would be 31 years old when the season begins and wouldn't be back until maybe april or may? I don't know. I guess we'll see what happens.

 

[Kjbert]

If you were a team trying to build a roster for the first season, would you choose a player that would be 31 years old when the season begins and wouldn't be back until maybe april or may? I don't know. I guess we'll see what happens.

Sounds like you think NYCFC should cut him loose this off-season?

 

[Brooklyn Blue]

This is what I would do:

Protect:
Gudi
Andrade
Magno
Callens
Chanot
Castellanos
Morales
Moralez (if he's staying another year. If not, put Acevedo or amundsen here)
Parks
Heber
Johnson
Barraza

Unprotected:
Acevedo
Amundsen
Latinovich
Medina
Mitrita
Mizell
Rocha
Shradi
Tinnerholm (injury for so long that there is no way they will select him)
Torres

I don't know how loan works, but if we need to protect rodriguez then obv protect him and put Heber onto unprotected. I doubt they would choose Heber.

Protect:
Gudi
Andrade
Magno
Callens
Santi
Castellanos
Amundsen
Parks
Heber
Johnson
Tinnerholm
Acevedo

Unprotected:
Morales (if Charlotte wants to absorb his 600K salary, godspeed)
Moralez (out of contract and shouldn't need to be protected - but even if he eligible, when has an expansion team ever claimed a 35+ year old DP?)
Barraza (no second keeper should be protected)
Tajouri-Shradi (appreciate all he has done, but he is never fit more than half the year)

Questions:

Medina is an interesting case. He is a solid player - just not a DP. If the team could bring him back as a non-DP, he could be worth protection.

Zelalem was interesting at the end of the year and is probably on a salary that could be tempting. He may be worth protection if something else shakes out with the primary roster (retirement or injury).

Chanot is still valuable to the team, especially considering the partnership he has with Callens. However, he has hinted at taking a coaching position, and he seems tied to the City. He might be worth a bluff if he lets Charlotte know off the record that he would retire before moving to North Carolina.

in any case, I suspect that NYCFC will be one of the teams to lose a player this year to due squad depth. Hope the front office can stack the unprotected list in a way to lead Charlotte to the player we want.

 

[Shwafta]

Sounds like you think NYCFC should cut him loose this off-season?

Nah. I'm just trying to justify a small chance that we don't need to protect him... even though I know we need to protect him.

 

[Gotham Gator]

If you just like hustle, go buy a Jo Inge Berger kit

Did you mean Jo Inge Berget? The UEFA Champions League starring right back?

 

[EganSoccerWords]

The point of claiming someone like Maxi isn't to put them on the roster, but to extort allocation dollars in a trade. No way he's not protected if the sides have made progress towards an extension.